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737aviator 13th March 2015 17:17

So, 12 movements per week in the new winter timetable Ryanair have just published. 1 less than the current winter season.
Albeit the 1 based aircraft is no longer sitting on the ground 5 evenings a week and only sits for 2 evenings.
There's no GRO or BCN in the system so I'd suspect a few more flights should appear as the schedule is revised.

bad bear 17th March 2015 11:42

Only one scheduled departure and one arrival today on the arrivals board.

How much money has the airport lost since it was bought? Has anything been done to reduce costs?



bb

BasilBush 17th March 2015 11:57

When the Scottish Govt took over the airport they estimated that they would need to put in £21m over the next 7 years. The Audit Scotland report re-ran the numbers and estimated the amount to be just under £40m.

However, as I noted above, the Audit Scotland report is already out of date in that it assumed a recovery of passenger numbers. It is anyone's guess as to how much cash the airport will burn if the traffic remains at current levels.

Update - CAA stats show a 60% decline in traffic in Feb 2015, with the moving annual total now just 858k. How quickly the Audit Scotland report has been overtaken by events.

El Bunto 24th March 2015 10:58


Where is the Beech aircraft coming from? I check fr24 and find "BRO31" frequently over Donegal..
It's a 2Excel maritime surveillance contract operation. G-IMEA operates as BRO3_ and Navajo G-BPYR as BRO4_.

I haven't been able to determine if it's an MoD or civilian-awarded contract and 2Excel aren't prone to returning e-mails from mere mortals.

Kinocker 5th April 2015 22:53

Anyone know why there are two Ryanair planes circling PIK at the moment? It seems a decent night weather wise?

Ian Brooks 5th April 2015 23:06

Maybe mist as it is 700M

Ian

VickersVicount 6th April 2015 15:37

It's weather- riddled with low mist and moving fog. so much for 'fog free year round'

ScotsSLF 6th April 2015 17:27

Dont ever remember PIK being classed as 'fog free all year round' (excellent weather record yes) but willing to back down if you can show where that is claimed VV. On very rare occasions a heavy sea mist rolls in from the Firth of Clyde and that was the situation last night. It was patchy with 3 of the 6 inbounds between 10 and 12 getting in and 3 apparently (FRs) not hanging around too long for gaps and heading to GLA.

rob39 19th April 2015 03:00

Apparently the management are currently talking to several airlines about route development. Flybe mentioned, looking into potential (London City) routes but no plans to open anything soon. Management heading to Aberdeen this week to attend the routes Europe conference. source Ayrshire post. Couldn't find the link maybe someone will come along soon with it

SWBKCB 19th April 2015 05:51

Hopefully just poor reporting, as Routes was last week...

Routes Europe 2015 :: Routesonline

Cyrano 19th April 2015 10:22

London City-Prestwick? It's a bit late for April Fool's...

CabinCrewe 19th April 2015 12:11

the few squealing for LCY from Dundee would be up in arms!

MichaelOLearyGenius 20th April 2015 22:53

All summer flights to Girona and Reus have been cancelled from PIK, any idea why?

Skipness One Echo 21st April 2015 10:38

Has any cost cutting been undertaken to bring outgoings down or is suckling at the nipple of the taxpayer in an election year just too good to miss?
Having said that, non terminal traffic appears to have held up well, given the departure of the two FBOs.

737aviator 21st April 2015 11:37

GRO was only ever Winter only, commencing in late October 2014, to replace BCN, so now than BCN is back 7 times a week for summer season it has replaced GRO. GRO was never on sale for Summer 15.

Reus, on the other hand, was in the Summer 15 timetable originally and was pulled a few months ago. Presumably forward bookings were poor so they added frequencies on other routes instead.

Last weeks Ayrshire Post had a rather large article on how Flybe were considering flights to London City. Officially nothing planned according to a Flybe spokesperson though.

Skipness One Echo 21st April 2015 11:54


Last weeks Ayrshire Post had a rather large article on how Flybe were considering flights to London City.
flybe's LCY return has been a shambles, INV was started and stopped within three months, PIK has nothing to offer the Canary Wharf market as there's no major financial institution based nearby to support it. Given the London market from PIK could no longer support low cost FR, high cost flybe is a non starter.
These guys need to get real.

SWBKCB 21st April 2015 16:27

and Flybe don't exactly have a history of saying "Not a chance!" when potential routes are floated.

They've filled many a column inch for the regional papers!

off watch 21st April 2015 20:56

Skipness One Echo , may I respectfully ask what evidence you have for your statement "Given the London market from PIK could no longer support low cost FR" ?

Tiger8 21st April 2015 21:35

Indeed. Lets hear your words of wisdom Skipness. :ugh:
Ryanair route to Stansted was extremely popular with business people as well as tourists. I`d welcome anyone giving it a go.
The usual PIK bashers at there best!!:mad:

USER0005 22nd April 2015 07:23


Originally Posted by Tiger8 (Post 8951530)
Indeed. Lets hear your words of wisdom Skipness. :ugh:
Ryanair route to Stansted was extremely popular with business people as well as tourists. I`d welcome anyone giving it a go.
The usual PIK bashers at there best!!:mad:

Don't always see eye to eye with Skipness but I agree with him on this one. FR left the STN route because it wasn't performing, that's the kind of decisions that commercial businesses make.

If it didn't make money for FR, with their low cost base, however it's going to make BE a profit, especially to LCY I simply don't know.

That may not stop them trying. The new BE model is extremely short termist. They seem to be happy to try anything but are ruthless in culling a route after less than 6 months if it doesn't perform. Not my favourite business model but a fact I'm afraid. see their record at BHX if you want proof of that strategy.


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