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NickBarnes 22nd May 2006 13:25

Very nice to join these forums:) yes i would expect Flybe to but the aircraft at there first four bases NWI,SOU,EXT,BHX

EGCC4284 22nd May 2006 13:28


NWI,SOU,EXT,BHX
When will there be a MAN base ??????????????

AlphaCharlie 22nd May 2006 15:09

Its no real secret as far as I understand it, having been told it by someone you would think might be in the know. First 4 Emb195s are going to BHX x 1, EXT x 1 and SOU x 2.

NickBarnes 22nd May 2006 16:05


Originally Posted by EGCC4284
When will there be a MAN base ??????????????

Didn't they say MAN was there new base, 6 routes already, NWI starting on Thursday

EGCC4284 22nd May 2006 17:11

They have not got any aircraft based there yet???????.

I would be surprised if they don't not intend setting one up at EGCC.

Shed-on-a-Pole 22nd May 2006 17:41

MAN's Flybe services are entirely operated by aircraft based elsewhere, ie. SOU, BHD, EXT, NWI.

Maude Charlee 22nd May 2006 18:11

There is no secret (internally at least) about the location of the E195's. It has been well publicised that the first of the 4 will be at Brum in October, with the subsequent deliveries going to EXT and SOU. No mention of NWI. Sorry Deliverance fans. :}

Godfroi 22nd May 2006 20:22


Originally Posted by GBALU53
There is also a possibility that Jersey may receive a second Dash based, so this could mean some new schedules appearing out of Jersey this information came from a good source so we will have to see what developes,:ok: :ok:

GBALU53 your'e at it again, weak rumour. New schedule??. Please consider these facts.
1) the JER base has two aircraft, 1 Q400 and 1 BAe146.
2 the Q400 fleet is increasing drastically.
3) the BAe146 fleet is decreasing.
Therefore, would it mot make sense that 146 is being replaced with a Q400 and the route structure remaining as it is?
A few more wise words; Listen to Jobsagoodun :ugh:

aeulad 22nd May 2006 20:49

He means a second Q4 in ADDITION to the 146 and existing Q4!

Calm down!

Regards

Mike

Chesty Morgan 22nd May 2006 20:56

Apparently you wont see a 195 anywhere near the CI's...ever! Let alone have one based there. Too performance limiting.

GBALU53 22nd May 2006 21:23

Godfroi
 
You stick to fixing and we will stick to flying them.

When on detachment the pidgeon can take a long time to reach with some of the updates.

Maybe you are correct that the second Dash is to replace the BAE146?? but can you really beleive that, if J.W. was around he would not be immpressed one little bit.

To take the jet off the LGW route out of JER would be opening more doors if B.A. woul;d that be a good idea of J.F.?????

HZ123 23rd May 2006 07:06

With another 30 routes coming on line your aircraft availibilyt must be stretched, in that one tech delay or failure has a serious knock on afffect. Does Flybe have a contract with anyone else to provide backup a/c?

GBALU53 23rd May 2006 07:49

No Emb for the Channel Islands
 
Interesting Chesty Morgan

If your information is correct it would mean Souhampton would not be getting any as well.

Look at the runway figures Jersey and Southampton are similar with some exceptions like OCLs.

The figures are as follows

Southampton TORA Rwy 02 5653 feet Rwy 20 5413 feet
TODA Rwy 02 6007 feet Rwy 20 5922 feet
LDA Rwy 02 5415 feet Rwy 20 5266 feet

Jersey TORA Rwy 09 5597 feet Rwy 27 5400 feet
TODA Rwy 09 6198 Feet Rwy 27 8100 feet
LDA Rwy 09 6198 feet Rwy 27 5098 feet

You can see a lot of the figures as close to each other with the Jersey operation the sector lengths are a lot shorter than the Southhampton jet operations so if Jersey can,t take the EMB Sou can,t unless someone has not done enought research there could be a major problem when the BAE146 fleet does not exist.

Could some of the bases end up with an all Dash fleet and not a mix of EMB and Dash.

I can understand the aircraft may not be able to operate out of Guernsey as there Runways figures are less than Jersey and Southampton.

As the saying goes two Dash,s would be better than no Dash,s at all.

Southampton does need a Jet or two based on the sector lengths they operate with the height restriction on the Dash Fleet due operational reasons the fuel burn would be higher on the very long sectors to southern Portugal and Spain and other places of this distance.

dustybin 23rd May 2006 09:11

Sou airport have not got enought gates for more aircrafts. The airport closes at 11 o'clock and some nights they have 15/16 aircrafts with only 14 parking spaces. R they planing on building more?

JAR 23rd May 2006 09:46

See 'SOU Expansion Plans?' thread on Airlines Airports and Routes.

Chesty Morgan 23rd May 2006 13:13

GBALU53
 
You're quite correct. GCI wont have any. It's still perf limited out of SOU and can only get as far as AGP with 108 pax. About the same as the 146. Seeing as JSY doesn't have any sectors of that length it would seem unreasonable to base one there. That's probably the reason.

CM

javier.mjv 23rd May 2006 22:08

Hi

Does anybody know if with the arrival of the EMB,BE would start some sun routes (AGP, MJV, FAO, ALC) from bases/airports such as SEN or BHD, that have domestic or frenc routes by the moment?
If so, any dates?

Regards

JAR 29th May 2006 12:51

195 for NWI
 
An official announcement is due in the next few weeks - but bosses are likely to follow the same model adopted by Flybe at Exeter and Southampton.
Mike Rutter, Flybe's sales and marketing director, said the size of the 118-seat jets made them ideal for Norwich and they should begin operating out of the city next summer.
"We would expect Norwich to have about 18 to 20 routes by mid 2006 and these new aircraft will help us deliver that expansion," he said. "That's 100pc the plan. We think Norwich is ready for it.
"We are taking Norwich from zero to one million passengers in two years, creating 1000 new jobs in the region for crews, support services as well as tourism and hospitality."
He said the airline was delighted by the success of its flights from Norwich and planned to operate three of the Embraer 195 jets from the city and a further two or three turbo propeller Q400s.
Flybe believes the move will see 300,000 visitors coming to the city as it estimates that 30pc of passengers will be inbound.
Ian Russell, chairman of Visit Norwich, the new body set up to promote the city and surrounding area as a visitor destination, said the move would help boost the local tourist economy.
"The challenge for us is to attract inbound traffic," he said.
"It's only realistic to expect people from Norwich to want to go to the Mediterranean and skiing destinations. But we are relishing the opportunity to work closely with the destination airports and win business from them."
Richard Jenner, managing director of Norwich International, said details were still being finalised about where the planes would go and he would not expect to see the new jets until later in 2006, but their size made them ideal for the regional airport.

http://www.spanish-airport-guide.com/article19.html

GoEDI 29th May 2006 13:28

BE are reporting strong sales on EDI-NQY, glad to hear it. Infact, some flights are already full or close to being full. Particularly at the start of the Scottish school holidays, surprisingly enough.....

GW76 29th May 2006 13:36


Originally Posted by GoEDI
BE are reporting strong sales on EDI-NQY

Are you sure its not just the Edinburgh News reporting "strong sales" :confused:


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