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baggagebill 18th January 2006 05:34

Something on the news last night about renaming of scottish-airports. Take it light-heartedly but some nugget suggested calling it Desperate Dan International !!!!

Richard Taylor 18th January 2006 07:53

That's just Dandy!

Dandy International

or

Jim McLean International? (assuming you're a Dundee U fan!)

Jim Duffy International if you're a Dundee fan.

shedrule 18th January 2006 10:52


Originally Posted by Richard Taylor
That's just Dandy!
Dandy International
or
Jim McLean International? (assuming you're a Dundee U fan!)
Jim Duffy International if you're a Dundee fan.


As a United fan, i would argue after relegating Dundee twice, that Jim Duffy international would be more popular amongst us than the Dee's.

baggagebill 19th January 2006 05:40

Just a note to say VLM will again be operating the Dundee-Jersey-Guernsey charter again this year with a F50.

Still no more new routes !!

shedrule 19th January 2006 09:05

VLM, thats a name not been mentioned outwith the summer charters. They already have a connection with Dundee and have a few UK domestic routes, no speculation as to them wanting to take the relationship a stage further?

matkat 19th January 2006 10:21


Originally Posted by Richard Taylor
That's just Dandy!
Dandy International
or
Jim McLean International? (assuming you're a Dundee U fan!)
Jim Duffy International if you're a Dundee fan.

If it was Duffy(Duffer more like) would that mean it would be bald useless and devoid of ideas?needless to say I am an Arab,will be in My usual place on Saturday(Box K under the main stand) for "Special Brews" return.
After thought how about Marr Brothers international after all those 2 managed to inject £23 million into the local economy well nearabouts anyway if You take of the £6 They still owe rough and Fraser:E

baggagebill 19th January 2006 11:22

still think that desperate international airport (minus the dan) is the best as it is a desperate airport !!!

matkat 19th January 2006 16:53


Originally Posted by baggagebill
still think that desperate international airport (minus the dan) is the best as it is a desperate airport !!!

Ha ha good one!!!:}

baggageben 19th January 2006 21:02

mickey mouse
 
i think mickey mouse international would be more appropriat,ha ha ha

shedrule 20th January 2006 13:07


Originally Posted by baggageben
i think mickey mouse international would be more appropriat,ha ha ha

I think even having 'International' in the title may be stretching the point as well

BOAC 20th January 2006 14:10

In defence of my friends there - customs available, and there used to be a schedule to Billund, not to mention England:)

shedrule 20th January 2006 14:21


Originally Posted by BOAC
In defence of my friends there - customs available, and there used to be a schedule to Billund, not to mention England:)

It was meant to be taken within the context of the other posts making light of Dundee's current lack of routes, and not to be taken literally.

There is still a scheduled service to England from Dundee as well. :)

baggagebill 20th January 2006 19:12

And they fly to Jersey which is over the water !!

And if you count the biz jets going to Norway, France, USA etc

It really is an International Airport

So what about Dundee Oor Wullie Business Regional International Heliport

BOAC 20th January 2006 21:30

I always used to reckon that the FAFs should be 'BEANO' and 'DANDY':)

baggagebill 22nd January 2006 14:43

Just heard about the shortage of jeta1 at LHR, for any aircraft operators out there....................there is plenty at Dundee

baggagebill 23rd January 2006 13:58

Heard a rumour again ! About Dundee being taken over by HIAL ? Not sure if its true.....it would make sense though

baggagebill 23rd January 2006 14:25

Hot off the press...........managed to find this so something going on !!

http://www.hial.co.uk/board-minute-e...tober-2005.pdf

shedrule 23rd January 2006 14:34

[QUOTE=baggagebill]Hot off the press...........managed to find this so something going on !!

Excellent detective work there bill. Onbivously confirms HIAL potential involvement at DND, interesting that the Scottish Executive are taking a role in this as well.

Is that a pro or a con now? :hmm:

Oshkosh George 23rd January 2006 16:10

There was an article in the Dundee 'Courier and Advertiser' a while back about Dundee's losses,and the possibilty of offloading to HIAL. I'll see if I can find it.

Oshkosh George 23rd January 2006 16:21

OK,it was from THe Scotsman (October 5 2005),and pasted here---



Dundee says it can no longer bear costs of loss-making airport

JENNIFER HILL

DUNDEE City Council is losing millions of pounds operating the city's
airport - and has told the Scottish Executive it cannot bear the losses
any longer, The Scotsman can reveal.

The council - which receives an Executive grant to operate the airport -
is appealing to ministers for urgent assistance on the back of
spiralling annual losses, expected to hit almost £2 million as early as
2007-8, according to sources. That equates to about £30 per council tax
payer in the region.

"The council is losing big bucks operating Dundee airport and can't cope
for much longer," a source close to the situation said yesterday.

Dundee City Council admitted it was in talks with the Executive over a
huge shortfall between the grant received and operating costs - which is
set to widen as early as next year.

The airport costs more than £2m a year to run, but Executive assistance
comes in at about £800,000, with the remainder of the bill being picked
up by the region's council tax payers.

The deficit could become greater from April 2006, when a "technicality"
will see the council's grant for the airport fall.

A spokesman declined to disclose the potential scale of the drop, but
said the council was "committed to maintaining the airport for the
benefit of businesses and our local community". Stressing the airport's
"strategic importance to the economy of Dundee", he added: "It's a key
element of the future well-being of the city's regional economy in terms
of economic development and tourism, being a key access point of golfing
destinations."

One scheduled service operates year-round from the airport to London
City airport. The daily weekday return service - operated by
Scotairways, 90 per cent owned by Stagecoach tycoons Brian Soutar and
Ann Gloag - carried 49,000 passengers in the year to the end of March. A
further 1,600 travelled on a seasonal service to Jersey this summer, and
there were 268 private charter aircraft movements, helped by the staging
of the Open at St Andrews.

That, however, is a far cry for the one million annual passengers
generally needed for a commercial airport to break even.

The Executive could grant extra cash to alleviate the situation or
off-load the airport on to Highlands and Islands Airports (HIAL),
according to the source.

"The council's appeal to the Executive could result in extra cash to
prop it up. But it's more likely that the council wants the airport
taken off their hands and given to HIAL to run - something the Executive
could do."

All of HIAL's ten airports currently run at a loss. But its largest,
Inverness airport, should move into the black if plans to pay off a
controversial private finance initiative deal for the terminal building
are successful.

A HIAL spokesman declined to comment on any potential takeover of Dundee
airport.

An Executive spokeswoman said it was "looking at ways of resolving the
issue", following "changes in the methodology used to calculate funding
for the airport".

Staying aloft

Dundee City Council has received a grant from the Scottish Executive for
the running of Dundee airport since the formation of the Scottish
Parliament. Its previous owner, Tayside Regional Council, received help
from the Scottish Office to keep it afloat. In the heart of Scotland,
the airport is 56 miles from Edinburgh, 73 miles from Aberdeen and 88
miles from Glasgow.


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