More resignations at easyJet...
 

Two Regional Flight Managers resigned yesterday...including one who was the 'original' company man.

This on top of a £300,000 bill for the sub-chartering last weekend, lines being dropped over the next months as there aren't enough crews, 300 (yes 300) cabin crew short in the London area, some routes being permanently sub-ed out over the summer at the behest of the CAA who are now SERIOUSLY concerned, and all this during June - August when the serious money is supposed to be being made.

The chief pilot has lost his medical - again - and been told not to bother coming back; although he wants to collect his share of the £10Million.

I am seriously wondering now, beyond all the usual hyperbole and naysaying, whether easyJet will survive thie year.

It also has to be asked - Do these two know something everyone else doesn't?

Bollocks!

I am sorry but I think you are full of it.

Evidence please.

You want evidence?

1) You are providing the typical sort of head-in-the-sand evidence of easyJet management not haveing a clue that the airline is falling apart around them.

2) FB, RFM STN announced his resignation Friday, he is off to Now at Luton

3) AL, RFM LGW also announced his resignation Friday - don't know where he is going.

4) As per the memo from JP, MK is off sick again having lost his medical. JP is now CP. He is hardly likely to mention "don't come back" on his memo is he?

5) £300,000 bill - I've seen the invoices

6) NC, from NMC gave me the cabin crew figure, also confirmed by JP new rostering bloke

7) CAA - spoke to one of the eJ Flt Ops Ins about another matter - illegal crewing as it happens - mentioned the serious concern.

Enough evidence NG?

Remove head from sand, and realise the situation is now serious - company threateningly serious - and the muppets in Laa-Laa land don't even realise it.

Have to agree with you Crappy_modem, have seen some of the evidence. Flights being offloaded, when 6 EZY A/C were sitting on the ground all night, unable to be crewed.
As for today, there is a Transavia B753 operating 4 sectors.

Whats a regional flight manager? air crew or airport orientated?

Regional Flight Managers are senior Captains, in charge of usually 2 or 3 bases, with a base Captain beneath them. e.g. AL covered LGW & LTN, FB STN, NCL, BRS.
The point being these aren't just some hacked off F/Os, but senior guys who will know far more what's going on than guys on the line.

See above.

From the local free newspaper
 

Glam-grans take to the skies

GLAMOROUS grans could be jetting off to a new career to dispel the stereotype 'trolley dolly' image of flight attendants.

Luton-based budget airline EasyJet has teamed up with Help The Aged in a project designed to prove that cabin crew should be employed for their ability rather than their looks.

The recruitment campaign launched last weekend is aimed at attracting 'more mature' staff, with positions open to men and women up to the age of 60.

And EasyJet spokesman said: "We want cabin crew that passengers can relate to and respect. The more mature person has so much more to offer in terms of life skills such as communication and team working abilities. They usually command
more respect too.

"Providing they are young at heart, we don't care how old they are.

"The job of a flight attendant is often perceived as glamorous and prestigious and certainly a sense of adventure is needed, but often the responsibilities, professionalism, dedication and energy that is required are not appreciated."

Help The Aged thinks it is a great idea.

Spokeswoman Liz Duncan said: "Cabin crew people need 'people' skills and authority, qualities that are enhanced by greater life experience."

Launching the campaign, EasyJet paraded attractive 49-year-old cabin crew trainer Pauline Mors – rather than an ageing, arthritic pensioner sporting an orange T-shirt and false teeth, like in our mocked up picture on the right.
Cabin crew recruitment ads with an upper age limit of 60 have now appeared in some women's magazines.

Shareholders???
 

Who's atually in-charge in Easyjet???Who answers to the shareholders and no wonder they are needing soooo maney cabin crew in London,have you seen the starting pay????Very bad. xxM.

....nobody's in charge!

Heard the other day that STN and BRS have threatened to revoke easyJet's slots if their on-time performance does not improve - a very serious state of affairs indeed!

EasyJet succeeded in wiping GO off the face of the earth, and now they are hell-bent on doing it to themselves - at this rate it won't take too long!

People laughed a few months ago when I predicted shares to slump to below £2.00, they have gone below and the City does forecast a further slump in share prices.
Senior management at eJ does not give a crap about any of us as long as they get their year-end bonuses and their share options. People at sleazyland have no clue how to run an airline succesfully.
Andy will be missed and I wish him luck in his new venture. At least Jim has more respect with the crews than MK did. Good riddance I say.

Perhaps easyJet wouldn't have such a shortage of crew if their interviews involved sensible intelligence tests rather than getting people to balance small nails on top of a larger one! What is that all about? Also, rejecting people who are hardworking, reliable, honest and have no problem with the written paper is probably not the best way to fill the vacancies. No, this isn't sour grapes, it wasn't me who went for the interview. I just don't think, if the company's in as much trouble as you all seem to think, that the cabin crew recruitment department are doing a very good job at keeping the rest of you in secure employment.

Transavia flying for Easy mmmmmmmmmmmm? I would assume at a very high price tag....where is the "low cost" in that?;)

easy wet leasing?
 

if easyjet are paying other airlines to fly their routes, then why don't they give Ryanair a ring? aren't they Number One for punctuality at the moment? for a small charge (!) ryanair could get some of easyjets flights on schedule!:ok:

I'd give it 6 months. Tops. This really is turning into Air Europe Mark II. (Yes, and I was there before anyone starts AGAIN!)

When Stelios set up EJ he told the original guy's that he would make it a household name and then take his money out and go and do other things.

Once the men in grey suits start running an airline that always needed the guidance of someone like Stelios or MOL then the writing is on the wall. I was going to give it five years after Stelios's departure, after what I've read above I'll give it five months!

As for MK? To see that gentleman removed from British aviation is one of the best bits of news I could ever have had. Good riddance indeed. Out of interest anyone know what he lost his medical over, mind you it must be hard to fly with a steak through your heart!!

:E

Why all the fretting? Surely if Easy go under it's got to be a good thing?
Pax won't be tempted by their BS prices (normally ending up paying proper prices to a joke airline), jobs in the REAL airline industry will be more secure, pax will get better service; and the big smug arrogant smile will be wiped off poxyJet's face.
Looking forward to it already. Didn't know you were in so much poo.

Last post seems a bit harsh really. To wish misfortune on so many people seems a bit too cold to me.

However, I am very interested to note that senior pilots are jumping ship to join NOW at Luton. I was getting seriously cold feet surrounding them, but fell slightly relieved to hear that they are tempting senior people.

That is as long as the senior people don't bring the orange in your face BS philosophy......:yuk:

I was about to join easyjet up until I read this post, can I ask what is the starting salary for Cabin Crew, and they say an average of £800 a month, thats very low, is that true.

Are things really that bad, or is this just the old rumor mill kicking off again?

Unfortuneately the evidence has failed to materialise.

Question:

Was there one or two RFM's that have resigned?


I think there is an important difference. One was ex-GO and the other by all accounts has not left.

Things are not as bad as you would like us to believe however I am sure you are not helping.

NG:hmm:

Hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil eh NG?

Wouldn't be much on this forum if people were stifled in the way you want would there?

Perhaps you are right Flap 5.

I just find tht 99% of the stuff that is posted here is crap. I'd llike to know what is going on and make my own assesment of the gravity of the situation.

So if MK has lost his medical....so what? If FB has gone who is surprised? Do either if these things represent a major problem for a large airline?

I think not. these problems are in fact easily surmountable.

Other problems such as a shortage of CC are more difficult to deal with but I am confident that there are moves to deal with this also.

easy is having to grow up very quickly at the moment. Its time we support the efforts that are being made in order for it to work and us to have what may be the best job around in a few years time. :cool:

NG

Not so easy ??
 

To run a airline is not that easy. Keep the people happy and run
the show needs more then a fancy colour and a fancy land
somewhere on the globe. That the industrie is facing difficult
times is obious. Some smell the fire before it even burns and leave
the stage before they burn theire fingers. Others try to stay cool
and get burned at the end. Be carefull Girls and Boys ! I hope
the blackmailing is wrong but it is easy to let the ship sink by
pulling the plug before the rescue work is done. The market is
dense for the traveler who just like it easy with booking and the
fares as well. So who survives in that battle ? Not easy to answer
but easy to figure out after a while......

There seems to be a lot of bile and vitriol flying around here. If there is any substance to these rumours, no smoke without fire and all that, then is it just co-incidence that BMI/Baby are also considering reducing their workforce by 33% TO STAY ALIVE.
Could this be the end of low cost operators?? Lets hope not, they have, after all, been of great benefit to the consumer.
A reasoned response to this post would be appreciated.

Baby are not losing ANY staff at all in fact are recruiting.

BMI are are losing staff at LHR, over the medium term. Ryanair have made large profits. So how can anyone say this is the end of Lo cost airlines? It's a combination of market saturation, difficult trading positions and Easyjet' loss of a figurehead. The bean counters will slowly turn a success into another airline.

Ummm. Not sure about your last Alterego as it would seem to contradict normally reliable sources of news.
BMI Job Cuts
FEBA

The Cabin crew are deserting the airline faster than they can be recruited- it's hardly surprising, they are virtually slaves with little or no perks. Staff travel except on easyJet doesn’t exist. What major airline doesn't offer that to its staff? RW said if you want staff travel- then leave. So they did- what happened? Last weekend that cost the company £300,000 with a/c parked up with no crews.

Some people still manage to push the easyJet BS talk- new uniforms- leather flying jackets! For Christ sake leave the old one alone! Stop the crap and sort our lives out.

I don’t blame AL and FB for leaving- I’m sure they would have more fun banging their heads on brick walls than bringing change at EJ.

Lets hope RW and MK take a one way trip back home, soon.

:ugh:

Never should have bought Go, well not for £375 million anyway.

That extra debt must be serviced.

Buzz, a bargain at around £3 million cash.

How much is it going to cost to convert a freight shed into the new easy H.Q? Hope they have a subsidy, which I am sure they do.

My contacts within easyLand are not happy folk. Much has changed, and not for the better since Stelios left they say!

this is the worst thread i have read on Pprune. what a load of w@nkers some of you lot are.:=

Hey guys. As a non pilot and not subject to the same stresses etc. that some of you are at EasyJet, can I just say with all the creepy journo's (one of which I am not), crawling around the board, it may be not be a good idea to be quite so vitriolic.

OK, I'll now shut up

Well said Southern!:ok: And I find the 300k figure a bit on the high side, I'd be surprised its that much!

And Albert if MK has lost his class 1, its no business of yours or mine as to what the issue was, perhaps you'd like to post your next medical if you fail, for us all to discuss. Oh and your name as well so we all know who we're talking about.

Hey, Orange_bubble, apart from RW and MK who you would like to see going home, what other antipodeans are you referring to?

Quote:

southern softy : this is the worst thread i have read on Pprune. what a load of w@nkers some of you lot are.

Yep everything is orange, keep sticking your head in the sand....

This place is going down the tubes faster than an eel down the Niagara Falls.

Was at the shed today and they fired all the airport managers to be replaced by regional managers. Some of these guys and galls have worked their bits off to make things work at outstations and this is their thanks?

Had lunch with some of the people taken redundancy and morale has never been lower in the years I have been here.

Some of the old guys have taken redundancy because they cannot wait to get our of here (BB is a good example)

As to CC they are hiring hundreds of agency staff with no experience trying to fill the gap.

Share price dropped again, apparently there is a memo floating around the City with a guide price of 1.40, don't take my word for it (again) time will tell or else make some calls, I did.

What a cr@p week this has been, what did we expect after Stelios bailed out....

Reading this thread I really wonder what people have in their mind!!!

It looks like some of the most violent comments, come from people working for EZ. What do they think they are achieving by writing so much things about their own company???
Let's imagine that EZ is really in trouble... Then talking about that on a public forum is not going to make thing better, is it? If anything, it can make things worth so what is the point?

I joined EZ a few months ago and I am quiet happy. Of course it is not perfect, but with the current state of the airline industry it is not that bad!!!
The salaries for FD are good, and I have no shame to say so. Is it the so called disruptions that are we talking about? Being called of a STBY, or getting a roster change? If you don't like it, I think the airline insustry is not for you. Get a 9 to 5 job then...

Cabin crew badly paid? I saw the payslip of a new CA, it was the same take home I was getting as an FO with one of the british regional operator. One purser told me that having worked for Air2000 and Airtours, she loved easyJet because of the reduced service on board which was a lot easier than handing out 220 meals and drink every flight. And the money, she said was good.

About the shortage of cabin crew EZ is far from being the only company concerned. As everybody knows, the DoT has issued new regulations making the issuing of RZ pass a lot more difficult (5 years reference required). It is a major problem for every airline. I know that 50 new CA in LGW were waiting for a pass for weeks not so long ago. Today, I flew with a CA which was ready for Line training in march and started flying last week on a provisional pass. I heard that Excel had the same problems... So before people talk about, EZ being so bad and so on, maybe a more accurate overview would be usefull.

Not everybody is unhappy in EZ. I agree that the company is going through a bad patch, with a lot to take in in a short time : merger, new aircraft arriving, DoT new regulation, ageing fleet (737-300) going tech, strikes in France...etc

With the way the network of EZ is setup, it was heavily affected by strikes in France with heavy delays. The fuel strike in BCN and MAD didn't help. As EZ network is very strong towards Spain, and overflying France, then bad delays occured in the last few weeks, WHICH HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THE AIRLINE.
And of course when there is delay, there is disruption for crews because people go out of hours and so on... So please, stop a bit the unconstructive slag off.

I am happy with EZ, I am concerned about the future, but I think it is better for people to be focused and instead of constant whinge, get on with it!!!!!!!!

:cool: ;) :D

Chaps
Take no notice of Southern Softie. He's in the business of winding up contributors to threads like this one. He's a professional tw@t last time I came across him was on planet rugby.
Proof of the pudding will be the way in which he responds to this post.
Stick to the jist but be careful of what you post. Your futures may already be at stake

Colonel Klink,

Edited when I realised my poor english! Just MK and RW!


;)

Flystar, get a grip girl. The issues here are serious ones, debated by flight deck. You have a right to post about the cabin crew if you wish, but get your facts right first.

The real issue is that Ej cannot recruit enogh cabin crew on their terms and conditions, not that they cannot get airside access!

Come on darling

Flystar may post where and what she wishes..moderators' determine relevance, not you.

Hawk

It seems that to succeed with a ground-breaking airline, you need a high-profile leader. Which is why Virgin, EasyJet and RyanAir are so well-known and popular. Or rather were, until Stelios left....

Whereas Go and buzz quietly got on with things and were popular with their loyal passengers, they didn't quite have the high profile of airlines run by Stelios or Mo'L. So they no longer exist (unfortunately), whereas the others do.

Leadership. Need one say more?

So much of the comments on this thread could easily read as comments about any other UK operator. Much of the same has been said about BACX. The aviation game will always be beset by problems and continual pressures. I do not think that negative comments effect the outfit as I would hope the city would be able to make its own judgements based on the general levels of the industry.

Looking in from outside things clearly will get more pressurised for the LC companies as there seems to be to many airlines chasing a finite market. Arriving at CBK there was an EZY CC and they all appeared cheerful enough and I have always found them the same.

Quite a range of opinions on offer here.

I must say that I am a little confused about easyJet's mission at the moment.

Are they low cost or not?

Recent experience is that prices are in line with the majors or slightly above.

And no, I'm not anti easy - it's just unless several coincidences have happened, Ryanair have been genuinely low cost on my recent flts and easy have not.

You could argue that FR fly to the middle of fields and easy donot, but isnt that part of the low costs deal?