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UK Green List - extra routes ?
It seems likely that only a few countries will initially be on the UK's green list. Portugal, Iceland and Israel seems likely to be among those countries
I'm guessing there is a good chance of airlines adding more rotations between the UK and the Reykjavik, Faro, Lisbon and Porto.... maybe also an increase to Funchal as well TUI fly a 1x weekly from both Gatwick and Manchester to Porto Santo in Madeira. About 5 years ago there were charters from London to Beja (Hifly's main base) in Portugal. About 10 years ago, there were scheduled flights from the UK to Akureyri in Iceland, there have also been package holiday charters more recently. Could we see temporary routes to Beja and an increase in flights to Porto Santo ? Perhaps routes from London to Eilat in Israel ? Being really ambitious, London to Akureyri in Iceland ? |
The limiting factor on flights will be accommodation, surely. If everyone want to go to Portugal for three nights there'll lots of flights; if they want to go for three weeks, fewer flights.
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Those countries on the amber list initially will still most likely welcome airlines and visitors, just you will need to follow stricter testing/quarantine guidelines on return and this shall limit the number of flights being operated to said locations
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Suprisingly, the UK are not digitally ready:
Holidaymakers may have to use paper Covid certificates to prove they have been vaccinated when the foreign travel ban is lifted from May 17, it emerged on Tuesday. Downing Street admitted that the NHS app may not be ready for use as a vaccine passport in time and the Government is preparing for "another approach" for holidaymakers travelling abroad in the interim. At least 20 countries have already indicated that they will accept vaccination certificates as an alternative to PCR tests for holidaymakers to prove their Covid status. Only Greece, however, has so far explicitly said that it will take paper certificates, despite concerns that they are more easily forged. Rita Marques, Portugal's tourism minister, has said her country would accept only a digital pass because of the risk of fakes. Spain, due to trial its app at more than 40 airports, has said it is in talks with the UK Government over the need for a "mutually recognisable" app. A senior industry source involved in discussions on the technology said: "I suspect they will take whatever evidence we have in the short term, whether it is another private app solution, a paper certificate, a letter from your GP or a negative PCR test." |
Did I read somewhere that you need both doses plus 14 days?
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The FCDO has changed advice on 5 Greek islands and Portugal, Canary’s and Malta.
possibly a sign the list is getting ready to roll. although Greek islands are heavily restricted to aircraft movements in a normal summer due to apron space, so they’re may not be space for many more aircraft if other countries resume services also |
At the moment Israel has only said it will open on 23 May for organised tour groups of 5-20 people. No more than 20 groups in country at any one time. No date yet for individual travelers. must have had both doses of approved US or EU vaccine negative PCR test and anti-body test on arrival.
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I wouldn’t get my hopes up for those Greek Islands. The FCO advice for those islands hasn’t actually changed since the days of the travel corridors, same with the Canary Islands. The blanket ban on holidays seemingly negated the need for the FCO to update its advice regularly.
Having said that, FCO advice was always an extra layer of hindrance for travel with its implications on standard insurance cover, as well as essentially meaning companies couldn’t sell holidays to these destinations. So no advice against essential travel will definitely open these destinations up to those who want to visit. |
You can (or could) just get specific insurance for that trip - its a pain but it can be (or could) be done
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Judging by the report in the "I" this morning delays at the UK border could be horrendous, due in part because the UK government has yet to get vaccination certificates into an online / app system.
There is part of me that thinks the government feels duty bound to open up international travel from 17th May, but then doesn't want to do anything that will make the whole process of leaving and returning to the UK simple or hassle free to put people off travelling in the first place. |
"here is part of me that thinks the government feels duty bound to open up international travel from 17th May, but then doesn't want to do anything that will make the whole process of leaving and returning to the UK simple or hassle free to put people off travelling in the first place."
Ms Patel probably thinks its character forming.................. |
Red, Amber & Green List has now been released.
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/red-ambe...tering-england |
I mean beyond Portugal and Iceland the list is basically pointless.
Australia and New Zealand don’t even want to let their own citizens in. Singapore has 21 day quarantine. Brunei has 14 day quarantine. St Helena can only be reached via a red list country. The Faroe Islands can basically on be reached via a Amber list country. Tristan da Cunha was basically unreachable at the best of times. I hear the South Sandwich Islands are lovely at this time of year. |
Going to a green country? Government advice is make sure you can get a refund incase green becomes yellow or red. Factor in the cost of testing and remember the long queues at the airport on your return that could take 10 hours to get through.
Anyone not been put off? |
Nope. Can’t stay hidden away forever.
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BA318
It's a farce, Govt doesn't want leisure travel and has padded out a very short list with a bunch of UK territories most of which are basically inaccessible to your average Joe. Probably puts the likes of Jet2 and other smaller UK dependent tour operators in a difficult position. |
Summed it all up in a nutshell, Asturias. Just demonstrates the degree of misleading the government are prepared to go to to try & avoid criticism for their gross ineptitude & basic uselessness. Shameful !
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New record cases of Covid worldwide and people here want a foreign holiday to more countries. This is why more Mediterranean countries are not in the green zone. The farce is the slow rollout of vaccinations in Europe.
https://i.imgur.com/TlP0vJ3.jpg |
A good proportion of “people here” want to have a job to go back to. Maybe read the name of the website.
Still wetting yourself from behind the sofa then. |
Not at all this is one of the reasons why more countries have not been added to the green list
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Indeed.
Those numbers are PER MILLION. Even in the slower vaccinated countries the vulnerable have had at least 1 jab. Get out from behind the sofa and take a look around. The world is still turning and yet we are sitting back and being told how to live on a daily basis. God help us when we all just nod and agree with the numptys in our government. |
Well said!!
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Could I gently request moving the discussion towards the addition of new routes between the UK and green list destinations, instead of the (long discussed over many months) question of whether UK residents should be engaging in leisure travel and where travel should be allowed
The aim of the opening post was to ask about new temporary routes to meet green list constraints. An example of this is BA starting Manchester-Faro, TUI opening Birmingham-Funchal or Easyjet Newcastle-Faro |
Am I right in thinking that the list announced yesterday applies only to residents of England? If so, when do Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland announce their 'green lists'?
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I don't know about NI but I assume that decisions about Scotland and Wales can only be taken once all the votes are counted.
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Have I missed something or does the Government realise there is a land border between countries in Europe. British citizens could fly into Faro and hire a rental car and drive to the south of Spain. The borders are open. Similarly they could fly into Lisbon and book a non connecting flight to other EU destinations like Italy. So are they depending on peoples honesty to admit this to the border agencies when they get home?
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Link Kilo
Indeed it’s a devolved matter. |
If you follow the link at #12, It does sayApplies to England (see guidance for Wales, Scotland, and Northern Ireland)
At the time of going to press, if you follow the link, Wales & NI have their own lists, Whilst Scotand is still say "No International Travel*. |
Not even an airport in S Georgia - what a farce!
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Link Kilo
Given N.Ireland still have the official stance that travellers arriving from GB should self-isolate for 10 days (apart from those travelling for the exceptional circumstances), it seems like it could be a while before they decide on international travel green lists. Indeed, only last week did the First Minister ask the Health Minister to look at allowing domestic travel from elsewhere in the UK. :{ |
Asturias56
Chinnock Airways? |
British Antarctic Survey might do - but they don't fly from LHR - couldn't get a slot I guess...................
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Vokes55
well said! |
Porto Pete
Or even more simplistically, land at GIB and cross the road! |
Why might China with 102 new cases in the last week not be on the list?
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It’s not decided on case numbers alone. It’s also down to testing standards, ability to carry out genome sequencing etc. Given China doesn’t usually provide reliable factual data I can’t see it being added for some time.
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Dannyboy39
There may be no restriction as to where you go. The restriction is on your return when you are asked to declare what counties you have been in during the last 2 weeks. If you lie on your declaration there may be all sorts of penalties...or not! |
British passports will now be stamped entering the EU, so this will be a giveaway if trying to enter Spain from GIB to circumvent the "yellow" zone rules in the former.
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You mean we will get stamps in our passports again? That makes Brexit worthwhile!
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Does anyone know the likely position on unvaccinated children under 18 is going to be anywhere? The idea of a “family” holiday is a bit short sighted if only the vaccinated parents can travel. As a parent myself I’m more than ok with that after multiple lockdowns and home schooling with the brats!
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