They are going to put them on the market at market prices - it's up to you if you want to pay them

Hang on a second - are you actually suggesting this should happen? Considering I didn’t ask for a refund and they’ve had our cash for over 18 months now?

If the airline has had your money, say for 18 months, and the fare has gone up dramatically since, can the airline insist you pay the difference for the new booking?

If you don’t have a booking and you are rebooking then yes. If you booked a year in advance and then it went up then no.

example: If I have a BA voucher for a £200 flight from June 2020. It is worth £200. If I book the same flight for June 2021 and it now costs £400 I need to add the extra £200.

Asturias56

If an airline cancels your flight, subsequently reinstates a flight on the same route on the same day, and then demands more money before they will transfer your booking, I'd suggest Trading Standards would be very interested.

If you kept your booking you would be put on the new fight free of charge.

If you opted to cancel a ticket and take a refund or a voucher then their obligation to provide care for that booking ends and your money is either returned or you hold the value of the ticket as a voucher you then exchange for whatever one of their services you wish...up to the value of the voucher. If you opted for a new flight and they reinstate the original one then you could ask to be moved back and they may do as a gesture of goodwill, but they are under no obligation to as you accepted the new flights when offered.

Trading standards won't have anything to say as nothing wrong would have happened.

I did prefix my scenario with "If ... ". :O

Germany has put the UK onto the naughty list.
14 days quarantine to enter Germany from the UK. It would not surprise me if other countries reacted similiarly

You mean like Spain? Or Portugal? Or Greece?

Nothing more than political tittle tattle from the EU's second most bitter country.

There is very little logic here... again. France is not even considered a high incidence area despite the SA variant being very prevalent and the French not doing enough genomic testing. The Indian variant is also in Germany already.

The only countries listed as "area of a variant of concern" are: Botswana, Brazil, Swaziland, India, Lesotho, Malawi, Mozambique, Nepal, South Africa, UK, Zambia, Zimbabwe.

Not politically motivated... hmm?

The rest of South America is treated as a high incidence area or risk area as is a lot of the Middle East and the northern half of Africa.

UK - Germany saw 14.5 million air passengers in 2019, or about 5.5 % of all the UK's international air travellers. This is an important market for airlines and airports in the UK; its effective suspension is not a good thing for aviation companies

Covid variants are throughout Germany, Europe and the world.

The UK is being unfairly penalised for being extremely efficient at finding these variants at an early stage - UK genome research leads the world.

But of course, certain parts of Europe then call these variants ‘The Kent Variant’ etc.

Very disingenuous of Germany and they need to get their heads out of the sand.

Meanwhile, they allow German tourists to continue to fly on holiday to Spain, Greece, Portugal etc.

It is a bizarre move. The UK now has one of the strictest entry regimes in Europe, one of the lowest case rates and highest vaccination rates.

Germany allows arrivals from far more countries which are liable to pose a greater risk than Brits. But I partly blame the UK Gov putting out scare stories before the facts are known. It now says the Indian variant is more transmissible and it largely seems the vaccine works against it. But they briefed for weeks beforehand that it was a disaster, would overrun the system and put us back where we started purely to back their domestic message. No surprise when other countries follow.

Since 07 May when the UK Govt announced Portugal was on the green list, the 7-day rolling average number of Covid cases in Portugal has steadily increased and is now 25 % higher after just 2 weeks
I imagine there will be some sort of tolerance built into the UK system to prevent knee-jerk reactions by the UK Govt... but if this steady increase continues, Portugal's status might move at some point (late June or early July ?) from green to flashing green, or Portugal might need to be stricter on rules in some way.
The Alentejo, Algarve, and especially both the Azores and Madeira, seem to be having the most problems with an increasing Covid rate in their respective regions. Lisbon and places further to the north seem to have much better control

One wonders how the increase in infection from an influx of tourists as potential bringers and carriers of the virus will weigh against increasing levels of vaccination

I have been tracking the Covid rate in Madeira, and as you say it’s been ticking up. The 7 day rate per 100,000 is now over 50 - which is worrying.

I do think there’s a chance it could become Amber.

I suspect that if any country, especially in the next 4-8 weeks comes off the green list, that’ll be it for this summer. It’ll kill any glowing ember of consumer confidence.

"sThe 7 day rate per 100,000 is now over 50 - which is worrying."

we need to move away from focusing on cases and look at hospitalisations - as vaccination spreads CV19 will be just like the 'flu - a lot of people may get it but it won't threaten their lives

Austria now prohibits UK citizens from flying from the UK to Austria

Ireland ‘to lift 14-day quarantine for UK holidaymakers’
https://travelweekly.co.uk/news/air/...-holidaymakers

France imposes 10 day quarantine for arrivals from the UK
https://www.independent.co.uk/travel...-b1854288.html
https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/france-will-impose-self-isolation-people-coming-uk-2021-05-26/

So on one hand countries are opening up to the U.K. yet on the flip side, some closing to them. Are people still not suggesting this is not political and all about the virus? Even more so in the case of France considering their risible genomic testing and what they have found is virtually every variant in the world already there.

Its very political, in the case of France, but just a different wrapper this time. Their second biggest group of visitors in 2019 were from the UK..I would think they`ve just sunk their tourist business for this year, if not longer. Just wondering if Ryanair and Jet2 are about to pull the plug on most of their French `holiday` routes for this summer?..Bookings must be off a cliff this morning.

It’s political in so far as it’s a Government decision, it’s not a ‘punishment’ against the politics of the UK as some are alluding to. Opening v Closing isn’t like with like, yes the UK is France’s biggest inbound tourist market but tourism is a much smaller part of France’s economy than it is in the likes of Croatia, Greece, Portugal, Spain. Therefore Austria, France, Germany can better afford not to take the risks associated with letting in UK travellers.

And yet Austria deem it such a huge risk they're waiting until June 1st to implement the ban and are letting their football team travel to the UK (and return) for a friendly match.

That is little different to the timeframes between the UK putting Pakistan and India on the red list and then enforcing it. As and when reliable data comes out relating to firstly the transmissibility of the India variant, and second how well current vaccines respond to is you can't blame any country that hasn't already got it endemic in their populations from being cautious. International politics has no part in this, it's common sense.

Had the UK been a but quicker in closing down travel from the subcontinent then we may not be in this situation, however particularly with India itself, politics look as though they played a role, and the UK is paying the price for that political decision.

There is no point is tour operators and airlines putting on new services at present, and if the public had any sense they wouldn't be booking them just now. Be patient a few weeks and I believe that we'll all be in a better place, both knowledge and vaccination wise.

AirportPlanner1

Exactly...unfortunately far too many people are still ******* obsessed with looking at stats of their choosing, turning them around and then claiming it's "all about us" (i.e. the UK) when in reality, guess what, it's not.

There's no denying some sectors will be hit..sadly though it's starting to look like the British Gite owners/second home owners will probably take another kicking from the restrictions, given it's often a case of that Brits will often book with British owners..

ECDC have release their weekly update. Generally cases in the EU are moving very clearly in the right direction, apart from some localised backsliding (the Azores in Portugal comes to mind - rules are being steadily tightened on the main island)

Malta is looking like an extremely strong candidate for the UK green list in early June. Finland and Romania are both looking good as well. Bulgaria and Poland are probably going to be the near-misses that don't quite make it to the green list next week

But given the rising numbers in the UK, a d the dominance of the Indian variant here, will they want us?

The Indian variant is pretty widespread across Europe already.

The disadvantage we have is that we do more genomic testing that anyone else so it looks like we have more than there. There's a lot to criticise the UK for with the current pandemic, but the testing and gene sequencing parts have been a huge success. Many countries like France and Poland do very little.

I think the government has already made it clear they will focus on low Covid rates and look at islands and island groups if required. Though popular destinations from the UK like the Canaries and Balearics still have fairly, but not very, high Covid rates. Malta looks like a good bet.

Isn’t today due to be the next 3 weekly review? Not that I’ve seen anywhere confirm that.

I thought that the 7/8 June ish was the time, but could be wrong

Monday 7 June is date for next green list review

So Ireland has now removed the quarantine requirements for the entirety of EU arrivals and the USA. And of course, the U.K. stays on this list over Indian variant fears. Maybe we shouldn’t be as honest as others...

Errr ... Not yet, they haven't. There are new rules as of 19th JULY, and the UK's treatment will depend on what the state is at that time.
https://www.gov.ie/en/press-release/...ational-travel

the testing and genomic testing is impressive but frustrating at the same time as we often seem to find the variants (which are more than likely already in lots of countries and aren’t of concern) yet the world and the media lose the plot and we are put on the naughty step. Can’t see how UK aviation and tourism industry can ever properly get going again in the situation outlined above

It appears that the Brits have been very good at picking up the new variants in the first place and I agree have become something of a victim of their own success in the genomic testing field but I'd be wary of assuming the likes of the French aren't now looking for the variant in the course of routine public testing/screening....

The Indian variant is in France for sure but as yet it is in relatively low numbers so fingers crossed. That is possibly because of the relative lack of historic links /family connections between France which meant there were fewer people arriving into France from India before a complete ban on direct flights kicked in in the third week of April, roughly 2000 passengers a week if the accompanying article is to be believed.

https://www.lepoint.fr/sante/la-fran...2423294_40.php

For those not aware one result of this is increased restrictions on those arriving into France from the Uk first thing Monday AM...

Perhaps there is some data missing, but this is from 2021-18 (3 weeks behind the latest output). Genomic sequencing per the ECDC. Risible levels of genomic sequencing despite the naval gazing from some of these nations. The ECDC recommends sequencing 10% of cases or 500 whichever is lower, so the likes of France are compliant.

Austria - 0.5% of positive cases
Belgium - 4.3%
Czech Rep - 0.2% (i.e. 18 out of over 10,000)
Denmark - 71.5%
France - 0.7%
Germany - 7.5%
Greece - 0.3% (i.e. 47 out of over 15,000)
Ireland - 27%
Italy - 1%
Lithuania - 0.7%
Malta - 30.8%
Netherlands - 1.5%
Norway - 1.7%
Poland - 1.1%
Portugal - 11.8%
Romania - 0.5%
Slovakia - 0.7%
Slovenia - 4.8%
Spain - 1.8%
Sweden - 1.1%

Bulgaria, Croatia, Cyprus, Estonia, Finland, Hungary, Iceland, Latvia, Liechtenstein, Luxembourg were all showing nought.

20 of these countries sequenced the Indian variant. Spain, Italy, France, Norway, Poland, Portugal all found more than 2% of variants during this week. The Indian variant is there and has been for a long time already.

Portugal removed from the green list.

No further additions to the green list.

RIP summer 2021.

Iceland is still open, I would think that prices will skyrocket though for any remaining seats and rooms for Gibraltar as the last remaining green option for sun.

I genuinely don't see an end to it.

New variants, cases ripping through the unvaccinated populations of countries could last years, and so could travel restrictions.