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CabinCrewe 24th Sep 2022 10:15

swings and roundabouts.. 15 years ago picture was very different, 15 years (even 10) in future the landscape will be very different. Just takes one small thing like sale of EDI, change of management, new low cost competitor, collapse of VS, fall out with DL, major recession, the @rse falling out of inbound tourism and things will change.
Enjoy things while they last Id say (esp ATL !)

mwm991 24th Sep 2022 10:38


Originally Posted by GrahamK (Post 11301806)
Not sure how you think the SG have killed GLA. Piss poor management within GLA has killed GLA, and a strong and ruthless team at EDI has taken advantage. Do they even have a route development team? When the likes of BRS (no offence to them) have overtaken GLA, you know theres a problem somewhere

No rail link, public money getting sent to PIK (laughable we have two commercial airports in a weak market), OTT covid restrictions that resulted in losses that'll never recover, no cut in APD, a green agenda that is firmly anti aviation.

The political and business environment is appalling, but that's only one part of it. Under Derek Provan's watch the airport has lost millions in traffic, the terminal is a dump that looks the same as it did decades ago, the public transport connectivity to Glasgow might even be weaker than EDI.

Ferrovial/Macquarie don't care. Its make a profit by spending as little as possible, to the detriment of the people who would actually need to use it. They've driven me to the train for UK travel and EDI for everything else. GIP and Dewar must be pissing themselves at the open goal they've been given.

Flightrider 24th Sep 2022 12:06


Originally Posted by Rusty Irish (Post 11301566)
Quite damning to see Delta go for another shot at Edinburgh to Atlanta. Just shows the transatlantic big boys don't have any faith in the market. Can't see direct regular service to Glasgow from the States ever again.

I can't see it that way. Edinburgh is a stronger incoming market and Glasgow has historically been a stronger outgoing market. With the US dollar exchange rate heavily favouring inbound customers for the present, Edinburgh is bound to do better for US/Canada inbound traffic as barely anyone from the UK will be able to afford to go the other way! For much the same reason, the growth is from DL into the UK and not by VS into the US.

Rusty Irish 3rd Dec 2022 11:25

Westjet the latest to call it quits at GLA.

AGS need to get to **** before they do anymore damage.

VickersVicount 3rd Dec 2022 12:59

…meanwhile, Air Transat expanding their GLA YYZ offering for next year up to 6/wk with mix A330 and A321 for S23. Perhaps more consistent than the WJ chopping and changing. Their plan to shift from YYZ is a little risky I might argue. YYC is even more seasonal than YYZ for this sort of market. WJ have a nice product and I did like their niche YHZ service.

tictack67 3rd Dec 2022 15:35


Originally Posted by VickersVicount (Post 11341634)
…meanwhile, Air Transat expanding their GLA YYZ offering for next year up to 6/wk with mix A330 and A321 for S23. Perhaps more consistent than the WJ chopping and changing. Their plan to shift from YYZ is a little risky I might argue. YYC is even more seasonal than YYZ for this sort of market. WJ have a nice product and I did like their niche YHZ service.

The whole point is The WestJet Group is making Calgary its home base and exclusive global connecting hub with all its 787 "Dreamliners flying through YYC Calgary International Airport.

" means Calgary will be the only place where we will intentionally facilitate connections"

Friend recently flew Dublin to Vancouver with connection in Calgary


Skipness One Foxtrot 3rd Dec 2022 15:55

WestJet proved that local point to point GLA-YHZ does still have a place in the 2020s, perhaps a peak summer option for Transat to have a look at on the A321NEO?
That leaves GLA with no transatlantic long haul aside from Air Transat now?
Seeing that Ryanair haven't put summer 23 from PIK on sale yet, you'd hope GLA will at least try for a deal as negotiations continue?

VickersVicount 3rd Dec 2022 16:10


Originally Posted by tictack67 (Post 11341708)
The whole point is The WestJet Group is making Calgary its home base

Yes we are all aware what their point is. As I said it remains risky IMO and happy to review the success of it in a few years.

YVRscot 3rd Dec 2022 18:49

Time for a new entrant to the Canada - UK market?
 

Originally Posted by VickersVicount (Post 11341722)
Yes we are all aware what their point is. As I said it remains risky IMO and happy to review the success of it in a few years.

Only 4 years ago Glasgow had seasonal weekly non stops from both Vancouver and Calgary. Montreal too for one season. WestJet's withdrawal to Calgary and Transat's abandonment of western Canada leaves big gaps in service. Even alternatives such as Icelandair ( once daily from Vancouver and Edmonton) are now not so frequent in a shorter season. No one in western Canada wants a transfer at Toronto, recently voted North America's worst transfer airport. I'd rather give Heathrow and Amsterdam a miss too. Maybe Dublin will be the gateway?

tictack67 4th Dec 2022 10:57


Originally Posted by VickersVicount (Post 11341722)
Yes we are all aware what their point is. As I said it remains risky IMO and happy to review the success of it in a few years.

Actually I'm not sure you do, you said YYC is seasonal. YYC will be their international connecting hub so it's not for YYC alone but other parts of Canada incl ski market.

muggins 5th Dec 2022 10:55

Security alert at Glasgow this morning due to a suspicious package in a passenger's luggage, with the navy Explosive Ordnance Disposal in attendance. Check-in and security areas evacuated.
From the Herald:

A Police Scotland statement spokesperson said: "Around 5.55 am on Monday, 5 December 2022, police were called to a report of a suspicious item within the security search hall of Glasgow Airport.

"The Explosive Ordnance Disposal (EOD) is in attendance and a cordon is now in place. Staff and members of the public have been moved from the check-in area to the multi-storey car park. Police and emergency services remain at the scene."
ongoing at 12.00

Glasgow Airport passengers evacuated amid police lockdown - BBC News

edit: staff and passengers allowed back into the terminal at 12.30. The item was found to be 'innocent in nature'

tartan 201 13th Jan 2023 09:55

A380 back on Emirates' service from 26th March
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....c350e28f02.jpg

ld0595 13th Jan 2023 14:03

Finally some positive news for GLA. Onwards and upwards to twice daily

Skipness One Foxtrot 13th Jan 2023 15:30


Originally Posted by ld0595 (Post 11365568)
Finally some positive news for GLA. Onwards and upwards to twice daily

The second daily is landing at EDI I imagine...... ( 1/2 joking)

nivsy 18th Jan 2023 01:52


Originally Posted by Skipness One Foxtrot (Post 11365625)
The second daily is landing at EDI I imagine...... ( 1/2 joking)

Yes it might be a joke that comes to bite GLA!! 😂😆. Not been through the airport for ages (as away in Australia) but when I pop in by in August I hope it has been spruced up a bit.

VickersVicount 18th Jan 2023 09:39


Originally Posted by nivsy (Post 11368545)
Yes it might be a joke that comes to bite GLA!! 😂😆. Not been through the airport for ages (as away in Australia) but when I pop in by in August I hope it has been spruced up a bit.

It hasn’t, its as bad as it was when you left… barring some Jet2 benidormer filled pubs 🙄

Meanwhile the Scottish EasyJet deckchairs continue to be shuffled. Venice gone, Lisbon in, (though why anyone would want to leave Lisbon at 0600 to return home is recipe for failure, if its going to be more outbound aimed).

nivsy 18th Jan 2023 11:18

Oh dear....dire! 🫣

tictack67 3rd Feb 2023 05:41

After an absence of 13 years Greggs to return to Glasgow Airport in April.

To open in the former Cafe Mozzo near international arrivals with seating for 50, and an outdoor seating area.

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....075a7834bf.jpg


QEC 3rd Feb 2023 07:07


Originally Posted by tictack67 (Post 11379054)
After an absence of 13 years Greggs to return to Glasgow Airport in April.

To open in the former Cafe Mozzo near international arrivals with seating for 50, and an outdoor seating area.

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....075a7834bf.jpg

Says it all about GLA now really, sad, pretty much a backwater nowadays, why did it all go so wrong?

BA318 3rd Feb 2023 07:41


Originally Posted by QEC (Post 11379074)
Says it all about GLA now really, sad, pretty much a backwater nowadays, why did it all go so wrong?

What is the need for such snobbery? Not everyone wants to eat at Caviar House at the airport. Greggs is also opening at LGW.


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