I wonder if Air Transat are similar in pricing to Westjet on GLA-Canada routes - I was recently booking a trip to Canada for late July '22 & was all set to hit "Pay Now" for GLA-YYZ in Premium Y on the 737Max when an ad popped up on the Westjet site promoting 787 Business Class. Turns out J from LGW was nearly £90 cheaper one way than Y+ from GLA - plus I get higher Flying Blue XP & Miles due to the greater length/higher class of travel. Supply & demand I guess....
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plus the added hassle of an indirect route both ways and added flight time.
Not sure I rate WJ ex LGW J service vs hassle value. |
WestJet J class ex Gatwick
Originally Posted by CabinCrewe
(Post 11170436)
plus the added hassle of an indirect route both ways and added flight time.
Not sure I rate WJ ex LGW J service vs hassle value. |
TS YYZ 4x week for S22 (originally listed as just 2x week) and up to 5/wk next summer.
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Originally Posted by VickersVicount
(Post 11223051)
TS YYZ 4x week for S22 (originally listed as just 2x week) and up to 5/wk next summer.
Has the VFF traffic dropped so dramatically? Or have they just found better yields elsewhere? |
Flights from Halifax, Nova Scotia resumed
Non-stop flights from Halifax, Nova Scotia resumed yesterday May 3rd by Canadian airline WestJet. For the first time this year these flights will be accompanied by non-stop flights from Toronto using 737Max aircraft.
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wonder if YYZ will cannibalise YHZ or if there is/was enough capacity for both with the loss of the ACr 767.
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So are Transavia and Vueling ORY both gone from end of summer 22 - never to be seen again? Feast or famine.
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Both the Vueling and Transavia on many of the UK-Orly routes were a disaster in the making. Neither would work, nor both together. Vueling would be far better serving a smaller number of routes well rather than a wide range of routes badly. And Transavia was simply a response to Vueling’s policy so equally doomed to fail.
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Originally Posted by Albert Hall
(Post 11233824)
Both the Vueling and Transavia on many of the UK-Orly routes were a disaster in the making. Neither would work, nor both together. Vueling would be far better serving a smaller number of routes well rather than a wide range of routes badly. And Transavia was simply a response to Vueling’s policy so equally doomed to fail.
https://www.cohor.org/en/ory-0512201...ol-allocation/ This would surely indicate they were at least considering the route potentially as early as S20 (if COVID had not got in the way!), so I'm not really sure we can wholly can say that Transavia starting was a response to VY. I understand that VY NCL-ORY appears to be ending in July, but GLA appears to be bookable through to the end of S22 - Has their been some kind of announcement that this route is ceasing? The route is certainly not bookable for winter, but the flights for S22 were not put on sale till pretty late in the day. Wrt to Transavia, afaik this was always intended to be seasonal. No flights are bookable for S23, but this also appears to be the case for their EDI-ORY route which has operated for a number of years. Whilst I agree its maybe questionable having both VY and Transavia operating GLA-ORY, I don't particularly see why one or other operating a seasonal 2 weekly service is unsustainable tbh. It's been suggested that ORY serves a somewhat different catchment to the south of Paris. |
GLA. Where routes go to die. The worst run airport in the British Isles.
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Originally Posted by Rusty Irish
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GLA. Where routes go to die. The worst run airport in the British Isles.
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Could it be that Vueling and Transavia have no real traction within the UK, particularly outside of London, and so unattractive to Glaswegians etc? And i doubt there would be that many French people wanting to do a city break to Glasgow, magnificent though that city is.
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Originally Posted by jdcg
(Post 11234077)
Could it be that Vueling and Transavia have no real traction within the UK, particularly outside of London, and so unattractive to Glaswegians etc? And i doubt there would be that many French people wanting to do a city break to Glasgow, magnificent though that city is.
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Originally Posted by jdcg
(Post 11234077)
Could it be that Vueling and Transavia have no real traction within the UK, particularly outside of London, and so unattractive to Glaswegians etc? And i doubt there would be that many French people wanting to do a city break to Glasgow, magnificent though that city is.
https://www.visitbritain.org/sites/d...09_-_2019.xlsx And that's before we consider Glasgow as the best air access point for large parts of the incredibly popular W Highlands and Islands. Most of the direct public transport links (both surface and air) to the W Highlands and and Islands operate from Glasgow rather than Edinburgh. So whilst of course London and Edinburgh have considerably more demand, I think you're probably underestimating that to Glasgow. Interestingly, pre COVID I saw figures that LH services to GLA were carrying 60% inbound, so I don't particularly see why flights from France should be wildly different. I'm not sure about these two airlines having no UK traction - surely most people use price comparison sites, so the flights should still come up on a search? I do generally agree with ATNotts comments and share some of the reservations that others have mentioned about GLA's current owners/management. To come back to VY and Transavia, no-one has yet pointed to the announcement or other evidence that the flights in question are definitely been discontinued, so I'd be grateful if someone could link to it for me. |
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Interestingly, pre COVID I saw figures that LH services to GLA were carrying 60% inbound, so I don't particularly see why flights from France should be wildly different. |
Originally Posted by CabinCrewe
(Post 11234177)
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Glasgow as a city really has been sliding backwards. The once bussling Buchanan Galleries is looking to be closed and access to the airport is choked via the M8. I find the airport really easy to use, security usually top notch and a plethora of airbridge served stands and space to sit. But from being the UK's 4th / 5th busiest airport in the 90s, the relative decline is obvious now. It's back to core outbound sun routes, Loganair and a truncated UK domestic network with some loyal oldies like KLM and Icelandair. Lufthansa, who knows? So sad.
The growth of Edinburgh really has smacked Glasgow into the shade, it's now like Manchester, inbound attractions just don't sell it. |
Strange Manchester has the 3rd biggest inbound tourist market behind London and Edinburgh
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