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BA318 2nd Jun 2022 06:55


Originally Posted by davidjohnson6 (Post 11239264)
Is anybody able to advise as to until what date tickets being on sale on the website can be considered a reliable sign that a flight will take place, with no more cancellations ? (Yes, subject to things like weather). Is it just 2 weeks ahead ?

I'd like to make a booking, but I know if BA cancel the flight I want to book with 2 week's notice it will be very expensive to find an alternative flight. It's important to me that if I book, I actually get to fly. I don't want to risk paying for other things (e.g. hotels) and then getting an email in a week's time saying "Terribly sorry, but your flight doesn't look sufficiently profitable to us so we have decided to cancel it and we will give you your money back when we feel like it"

It varies. They did cancel a batch but then every time something happens it knocks the flights back out for a few days. Where is the destination? Routes with multiple services seem to get some cancelled but still able to get people there.

Long haul also less likely to get last minute cancellations.

nguba 3rd Jun 2022 09:20

BA have put through a lot of frequency reductions well into the summer (JNB & MIA cut to daily for example) and brought in wet leases from Iberia and Finnair. There may be more to come, but they seem to have decided to just get a lot of cancellations out of way.

How the actual winter season schedule compares to the current timetable is a different matter altogether.

SealinkBF 4th Jun 2022 17:13

According to Head for Points, Iberia have decided they can do ground handling at LHR better (cheaper???) than BA.

CabinCrewe 4th Jun 2022 18:44

I don’t think they’re doing it themselves?!

strawberry Ribena 4th Jun 2022 19:31


Originally Posted by CabinCrewe (Post 11240805)
I don’t think they’re doing it themselves?!

I have noticed that red handling who look after Norwegian and TAP at LGW is on a major recruitment drive for LHR. Hiring everything from pax to ramp and dispatch. My money is on them.

SealinkBF 5th Jun 2022 12:57


Originally Posted by CabinCrewe (Post 11240805)
I don’t think they’re doing it themselves?!

My bad, I meant Iberia can source it better..

Cloud1 7th Jun 2022 21:11


Originally Posted by SealinkBF (Post 11241179)
My bad, I meant Iberia can source it better..

Isnt sourcing of handling done through the IAG brand rather than individual airlines. Therefore Iberia won’t be deciding they can do anything differently it would be IAG leading that workstream.

Skipness One Foxtrot 7th Jun 2022 23:00


Originally Posted by Cloud1 (Post 11242418)
Isnt sourcing of handling done through the IAG brand rather than individual airlines. Therefore Iberia won’t be deciding they can do anything differently it would be IAG leading that workstream.

I think those decisions are made at airline and not group level, I think it's an operational decision for Iberia.

SealinkBF 8th Jun 2022 15:01


Originally Posted by Cloud1 (Post 11242418)
Isnt sourcing of handling done through the IAG brand rather than individual airlines. Therefore Iberia won’t be deciding they can do anything differently it would be IAG leading that workstream.

Sourcing is done by IAG for things like aircraft orders, but for operations it's all done by individual airlines. According to HfP.

jmdavies86 14th Jun 2022 08:15

Looks like strike action is potentially on the horizon at BA due to pay and conditions:

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/othe...omMaestro=true

Skipness One Foxtrot 14th Jun 2022 08:48


Unite, which represents 16,000 BA workers, won a 97pc majority in a ballot for potential industrial action after claiming the airline reneged on a pay deal. The union, the UK's second largest, is also balloting 500 check-in staff on strikes that could be staged in July when demand is expected to surge.It claims BA has restored management pay to pre-pandemic levels but refused to reverse a 10pc pay cut that was imposed on workers during the pandemic.
Sean Doyle learning from Accenture Alex if this is true? The reason they're in operational meltdown is that good people can be paid more elsewhere for friendlier hours.

WHBM 19th Jun 2022 09:36

IAG stock getting seriously shorted on the London and New York stock markets by hedge funds, who are normally the first spotters of poor management

City investors betting on fall in price of British Airways owner IAG (msn.com)

The division between the operational airlines, and the investor-focused overlords at IAG seems to be turning out a poor structure, especially as they concentrate management ever more in Spain, whereas the bulk of the European investment is through London, where the operational details are more extensively reported.

Apparently the recent AGM was only in Madrid, unlike the dual AGMs of previous times on sequential days in Madrid and London, and BA were offering only C class fares priced around £700 for a day return for any City of London analysts who wanted to go and represent their investor clients. Somebody at IAG probably thought this was funny.

SealinkBF 23rd Jun 2022 14:24

BBC News - British Airways Heathrow staff back summer strikes over pay https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-61906236

PAXboy 23rd Jun 2022 16:01

From the article:

The unions said the action was due to a 10% pay cut imposed during the peak of the pandemic not being reinstated.

Some 500 Unite members recorded a 94.7% vote in favour of industrial action, while 95% of GMB members backed the walkouts.

The strike dates will be confirmed in the coming days.

The proposed action relates to fewer than 50% of British Airways staff based at Heathrow in customer-facing roles only, and there are other customer service workers who have not been balloted.

It is understood that if strikes go ahead, BA, which operates from terminals three and five at Heathrow, has plans to cover staff, including managers potentially dealing with check-ins.

However, there would still be disruption for passengers, especially at terminal five, leading to cancellations, which would be focused on routes with several daily flights.

SealinkBF 24th Jun 2022 11:08


Originally Posted by SealinkBF (Post 11250539)
BBC News - British Airways Heathrow staff back summer strikes over pay https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-61906236

Good for them. They're aren't even asking for a pay rise, just a restoration, which I believe management received!
And the CEO of BA is paid an additional £250k a year to maintain two homes - one in London and one in Madrid.

Standby Scum 24th Jun 2022 12:55

Not quite right.
 
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....12c73c8512.gif

Bksmithca 24th Jun 2022 16:37

Is it me or is the jet in the background sitting on it's tail?

wub 24th Jun 2022 16:38


Originally Posted by Bksmithca (Post 11251130)
Is it me or is the jet in the background sitting on it's tail?

It’s a scale model

FUMR 24th Jun 2022 16:46

Used to be a scale model of Concorde. Changed to an Emirates A380 since 2008 I believe. Plenty more pics of it if you google it.

DaveReidUK 24th Jun 2022 16:53

Not quite right ??
 

Originally Posted by Standby Scum (Post 11251034)

Are you suggesting that BA staff at Heathrow haven't voted to strike ?


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