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YVRscot 9th Jun 2022 21:11


Originally Posted by VickersVicount (Post 11243532)
I just can’t see anyone operating LAX, VS A330 or otherwise, seasonal or not. If it did, it would be while an incentive lasted then ditched.

What about Western Canada? Both Calgary and Vancouver were served weekly from Glasgow until 2018. Modern emigrants don't just return every 5 or 10 years (3 times this year alone for me) and VFR has been the first market to recover. YVR is handy for connections to SFO, LAX and even Hawaii.

Planeraz 9th Jun 2022 21:39

I personally don’t see Westjet using one of their 787’s for a service from Western Canada on a secondary/tourist driven route like EDI. Would Air Canada look at this? Just not sure. The best EDI can hope for in my opinion will be to retain a wide body service from Toronto in 2023. The fact that AC upgraded aircraft from the originally planned Max8 is promising. Presumably, increased demand will have driven that decision.

VickersVicount 9th Jun 2022 21:57

YVR and Calgary are way more likely than LAX! But can’t see any of them in near future. WestJet and AC will mop up the connections

tictack67 10th Jun 2022 06:11


Originally Posted by VickersVicount (Post 11243532)
I just can’t see anyone operating LAX, VS A330 or otherwise, seasonal or not. If it did, it would be while an incentive lasted then ditched.


The latest analysis I could find was Anna aero route shop.
Edi-Lax had approx 23,000 indirect passengers a year of which 15% were in premium cabins on last analysis
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....779f763bad.jpg


Meaning average figures of 66J and 360Y AVG weekly

Sk1schoolsam 10th Jun 2022 10:36


Originally Posted by tictack67 (Post 11243778)
The latest analysis I could find was Anna aero route shop.
Edi-Lax had approx 23,000 indirect passengers a year of which 15% were in premium cabins on last analysis
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....779f763bad.jpg


Meaning average figures of 66J and 360Y AVG weekly

I am sure LAX would not have included Scotland in there wish list (wonder if there’s added demand on from GLA) if there was not recognised demand both ways.

davidjohnson6 10th Jun 2022 10:56

Flyr ends Oslo on 8 August 2022

VickersVicount 10th Jun 2022 10:57


Originally Posted by Sk1schoolsam (Post 11243936)
I am sure LAX would not have included Scotland in there wish list (wonder if there’s added demand on from GLA) if there was not recognised demand both ways.

There most certainly is some demand but the majority will funnel through with their OW or Star baggage tags via hubs. A Virgin service is unlikely to change that- otherwise the Avios’rs would have rammed Barbados, which they didn’t.

tictack67 10th Jun 2022 14:23


Originally Posted by VickersVicount (Post 11243948)
There most certainly is some demand but the majority will funnel through with their OW or Star baggage tags via hubs. A Virgin service is unlikely to change that- otherwise the Avios’rs would have rammed Barbados, which they didn’t.

Actuall you can't use Avios for Virgin Atlantic flights.

They are competitors.

I personally think BGI was introduced around the easing of lockdown and a short lead in time.

VickersVicount 10th Jun 2022 17:14


Originally Posted by tictack67 (Post 11244061)
Actuall you can't use Avios for Virgin Atlantic flights.

Actually its a turn of phrase in reference to those who redeem, and of course historically with eg BA. Keep up!

tictack67 10th Jun 2022 20:49


Originally Posted by VickersVicount (Post 11244120)
Actually its a turn of phrase in reference to those who redeem, and of course historically with eg BA. Keep up!

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Airlines don't generally run new routes for points redemption and even then they only allocate a very small % of seats for redemption anyway this way.

So it would never be "rammed" with freebie points.

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Asturias56 11th Jun 2022 09:11

"So it would never be "rammed" with freebie points."

Pre covid most Qantas flights seemed packed with folk redeeming points

tictack67 11th Jun 2022 15:34

[QUOTE=Asturias56;11244388]"So it would never be "rammed" with freebie points."

Pre covid most Qantas flights seemed packed with folk redeeming points[/QUOTE
Hhow could you tell?

I wouldn't have thought there would be a huge number of Virgin "Flying club" members in Scotland or Newcastle, and the percentage of those nearby wanting to just happen to want to go to BGI would be small, and even if it were rammed with redemptions that would not have made money.



Planeraz 13th Jun 2022 07:50

AC

Air Canada using a 789 on this evening service from YYZ. A nice little upgrade even if it is a one-off.


Planeraz 13th Jun 2022 20:07

Air Canada updating system. 789 also operating tomorrow 14/2 and other select dates during S22. Subject to change of course. It would appear that EDI-YYZ route is performing well and an upgraded aircraft is required at certain times to satisfy demand. Will be interesting to see how Westjet perform.

Planeraz 18th Jun 2022 21:51

United

United using a 763 on todays service from EWR. Tomorrows service to EWR is booked full. Could a 763 be a aircraft to come in the months ahead on this route?

Asturias56 19th Jun 2022 08:00

"Hhow could you tell?"

Australians who think they have a real bargain are not the most retiring of of folk............... they want the WHOLE World to know they haven't spent a A$ :(

AND they have Frequent Flyer cards that enable them to fill the Lounges as well - NOT in perfect silence

wub 19th Jun 2022 15:24

[QUOTE=Asturias56;11248464]AND they have Frequent Flyer cards that enable them to fill the Lounges as well - NOT in perfect silence[/QUOTE

I experienced this in the lounge at SIN a few weeks ago. The Qantas lounge closed and a whole Aussie Rules football team, in playing kit, descended on the BA lounge and went through the food like a plague of locusts. Nothing but crumbs left.

Planeraz 23rd Jun 2022 07:46

Air Baltic

Reported to be dropping EDI from end of August citing a lack of aircraft parts. Although subject to change, I suspect this time their will be no reprieve. Low load factors?

tictack67 23rd Jun 2022 08:40


Originally Posted by Planeraz (Post 11250365)
Air Baltic

Reported to be dropping EDI from end of August citing a lack of aircraft parts. Although subject to change, I suspect this time their will be no reprieve. Low load factors?

Ryanair will be flying to Riga 5 times a week from the winter (up from 3 just now).so the route remains served.

Baltic lease 12% of their fleet to SAS and Eurowings.

Probably a shrud business move to wetlease, money guaranteed with no risk.

easy and BA meanwhile are grounding planes they are already paying for, paying for their parking and then paying for wetleases.
Obviously crewing issues but amazing none the less

Planeraz 30th Jun 2022 08:56

Air Canada S23

Increased from 6 x W to daily from 2nd June. Retaining the 787. A long way off but still positive news.


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