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JW95 2nd Sep 2023 08:58

Bamboo Airways
 
Sadly, LGW looks set to lose Bamboo Airways altogether, with flights to Ho Chi Minh ceasing 20th September, and Hanoi ending 25th October :( Shame to see another long haul airline leave Gatwick :(

pabely 2nd Sep 2023 09:16

Air Algerie
 
Algerian carrier Air Algerie plans to launch a new route to the United Kingdom. The airline will fly to London Gatwick from 29 October with twice weekly flights.

Algiers - London Gatwick
AH2058 1430 1640 737 6
AH2058 1850 2100 737 7
London Gatwick - Algiers
AH2059 1755 2150 737 6
AH2059 2230 0225+1 737 7

Source:

Didn't they run some flights into STN last year, so maybe not impressed with the service they got, yes I know they were short notice LHR change flights during restrictions but you would have thought it would be ideal time for MAG to impress!?

davidjohnson6 2nd Sep 2023 09:58

Algeria is pretty much due south of London... the time and cost of overflying Sussex to reach STN alone must favour AH preferring LGW over STN. Algeria's visa policy makes tourism by UK citizens very difficult. The Algerian community in the UK is a tiny fraction of that in France. The corporate oil traffic will always favour LHR over anywhere else. Why should MAG bend over backwards to get a 2x weekly airline with little potential to expand ?

pabely 2nd Sep 2023 10:41

If you know anything about ex French colonial ties in Africa, most are dropping ties. Universities in Algerie are dropping French and moving to English. They feel abandoned by the French. Look at the nations which have joined the commonwealth recently.
As such this could see increased demand.
The Algerian government would have noted better connections to UK by neighbouring countries in North & Central Africa, I can see restrictions in travel changing, hence this new service and potential. They do have quite a few aircraft arriving so the shedules can be increased as demand increases.

davidjohnson6 2nd Sep 2023 11:18

Pabely - I agree that Algerian visa policy can change... but it's got to change a lot for tourism on anywhere near the scale of Egypt, Tunisia or Morocco. Algeria makes tourism difficult for almost everyone with a European passport. The formerly impossible-to-enter-as-a-nonpilgrim-tourist Saudi Arabia seems to be making tourism easier than Algeria

vectisman 2nd Sep 2023 11:40

British Airways are moving Algiers from Heathrow to Gatwick at the beginning of the winter season to be operated by BA Euroflyer with a daily frequency.

Sotonsean 2nd Sep 2023 19:18


Originally Posted by JW95 (Post 11495884)
Sadly, LGW looks set to lose Bamboo Airways altogether, with flights to Ho Chi Minh ceasing 20th September, and Hanoi ending 25th October :( Shame to see another long haul airline leave Gatwick :(

Indeed it's a shame to see LGW losing another long haul airline but not really surprising regarding Bamboo Airways as I predicted in an earlier post of mine from a few weeks ago.

CabinCrewe 2nd Sep 2023 21:25


Originally Posted by Sotonsean (Post 11496134)
Indeed it's a shame to see LGW losing another long haul airline but not really surprising regarding Bamboo Airways as I predicted in an earlier
post of mine from a few weeks ago.

I think we predicted it at the launch…

Skipness One Foxtrot 2nd Sep 2023 22:28

They left LHR because they couldn't afford the operating costs which is never a good sign.....although a fair comment!

Sotonsean 7th Sep 2023 21:38

Saudia
 
Saudia are reducing Jeddah to LGW for the IATA winter 2023/24 season. Flights reduce from 7 to 4 weekly. Operational days are Tuesday, Thursday, Saturday and Sunday. Flight times and schedule remains the same.

The IATA winter 2023/24 season will see several reductions or cessations from various long haul airlines at LGW.

Bamboo Airways...abandoning LGW
Delta...going seasonal, "or maybe gone again"
Jetblue...reducing capacity
Norse Atlantic...reducing capacity
Saudia...reducing capacity

samj 8th Sep 2023 12:51

Not surprised, winter isn't great for loadings is it?

Sotonsean 8th Sep 2023 19:48


Originally Posted by samj (Post 11499342)
Not surprised, winter isn't great for loadings is it?

Well obviously compared to the summer season it isn't.

My post was for informative purposes only.

Paulesx 9th Sep 2023 15:59

Bamboo
 

Originally Posted by Paulesx (Post 11458892)
Not sure what's happening with Bamboo flights, when looking at the bamboo website and then the GDS seems the flights are pricing properly up until 24 September, after which time the GDS shows blocked inventory on all classes, could they be closing the route?


So looks likes it now official , albeit ending in October as opposed to September

nguba 14th Sep 2023 21:28

As has been widely reported many aircraft diversions & flight cancellations tonight due ATC staff shortages at Gatwick.

davidjohnson6 15th Sep 2023 02:06


Originally Posted by nguba (Post 11502963)
As has been widely reported many aircraft diversions & flight cancellations tonight due ATC staff shortages at Gatwick.

What's the real reason for this ? Genuine sickness epidemic ? Lousy pay and people leaving ? Something else ? Would be keen to understand the root cause of this, preferably without political point scoring or PR "edited" press releases

MARK 101 15th Sep 2023 11:01

Interestingly BHX was Notammed for reduced ATC cover from 0400-0600 this week as well. Didnt affect flights at those hours, but is there an issue brewing with ATC staff

SWBKCB 15th Sep 2023 11:24


Originally Posted by MARK 101 (Post 11503206)
Interestingly BHX was Notammed for reduced ATC cover from 0400-0600 this week as well. Didnt affect flights at those hours, but is there an issue brewing with ATC staff

It's not brewing - it's been managed since Covid, and not just in the UK.

Apron Artist 17th Sep 2023 12:21

Looks like it's going pear-shaped today - U2 have so far cancelled 26 departures. Presume weather related.

pabely 17th Sep 2023 13:25

Why weather? An EZY diverted to LTN and a WUK to STN? ATC issues again?

Apron Artist 17th Sep 2023 13:50


Originally Posted by pabely (Post 11504191)
Why weather? An EZY diverted to LTN and a WUK to STN? ATC issues again?

Even though I left earlier this year, I still receive all the alerts and details of what's going on. Any ATC issues would result in me receiving a message on my phone - this hasn't happened. Weather-wise, thunderstorms are forecast any time up to 06:00 local tomorrow. U2 appear to be a lot quicker to chop flights from the 3rd wave than was the case about a year ago when they would simply wait until everything was beyond recovery and a total shambles.


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