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InSeat19c 25th Jun 2023 11:50

QUOTE=Yeehaw22;11100134]InSeat19c

​​​​​​Have you thought you might live in the wrong place?
​​​[/QUOTE]

No, I don't think so.

I love planes, I just appreciated the quiet at the time.


Originally Posted by Vokes55 (Post 11100282)
And be on the wrong forum?

Not really. Surely all views are welcome?


Originally Posted by 772 (Post 11100129)
Quieter skies meant heavy job losses, a costly price to pay.

Indeed so and three years on, that price is still being paid.


Paulesx 29th Jun 2023 11:18

Bamboo Airways pulling out ??
 
Not sure what's happening with Bamboo flights, when looking at the bamboo website and then the GDS seems the flights are pricing properly up until 24 September, after which time the GDS shows blocked inventory on all classes, could they be closing the route?

Sotonsean 29th Jun 2023 15:12


Originally Posted by Paulesx (Post 11458892)
Not sure what's happening with Bamboo flights, when looking at the bamboo website and then the GDS seems the flights are pricing properly up until 24 September, after which time the GDS shows blocked inventory on all classes, could they be closing the route?

Interesting, nothing has been mentioned elsewhere in the aviation and travel media regarding the future of Bamboo Airways Hanoi to London Gatwick route.

Bamboo Airways has been in a precarious situation over the last few months. A complete change of management has happened over the last few weeks and new investors appeared last week with the intent on lending the troubled airline $340mn.

Perhaps the new management team don't see a future with Bamboo Airways flying long haul to Europe. Although I would much prefer to see Bamboo Airways remain at London Gatwick I would not be surprised at all if they ceased flying to the airport altogether.



JW95 29th Jun 2023 20:02


Originally Posted by Paulesx (Post 11458892)
Not sure what's happening with Bamboo flights, when looking at the bamboo website and then the GDS seems the flights are pricing properly up until 24 September, after which time the GDS shows blocked inventory on all classes, could they be closing the route?

Unless Bamboo are still finalising schedules etc? This does sometimes happen (higher than normal prices) prior to prices stabilising. Like others have mentioned, there hasn't been any definitive announcement or anything to confirming the possible cessation of LGW.

On the other hand though, they haven't been doing too great financially, and are up against Vietnam Airlines from LHR, who operate at a much higher frequency compared to the 2-weekly Bamboo LGW-HAN operation, so it wouldn't surprise me entirely if they did decide on cutting London completely. That said, it would be a shame for LGW to lose Bamboo :( Hopefully they do remain here and that LGW can continue to grow its long haul network to Asia.

Paulesx 30th Jun 2023 06:38

Rumour has it they will be increasing Frankfurt frequency and sacrificing the aircraft used to operate london for this Frankfurt increase, as they are very limited on 787 numbers , anyway time will tell

davidjohnson6 6th Jul 2023 07:29

Dan Air to cut their 1x weekly Gatwick - Bucharest route. Gatwick-Brasov will continue
https://boardingpass.ro/dan-air-susp...-la-bucuresti/

davidjohnson6 6th Jul 2023 15:25

Please can we stop pretending the 2nd runway is just there for emergencies. Please. We promise to be good and always say please and thank you.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-sussex-66121167

Asturias56 7th Jul 2023 07:20

you mean actually believe the promises given when it was built?


LTNman 7th Jul 2023 07:21


As part of the planning submission Gatwick said it had made some "legally binding commitments, to ensure it controls noise levels and reduces carbon emissions under the airport's direct control".
Meaning they will have no impact as aircraft pollution is excluded. This is another company that is in denial or just doesn’t care.

Don’t worry, while we will all be forced to drive electric cars and have to get rid of our gas boilers Gatwick is planning to increase its aircraft emissions.

ATNotts 7th Jul 2023 07:33


Originally Posted by LTNman (Post 11463288)
Meaning they will have no impact as aircraft pollution is excluded. This is another company that is in denial or just doesn’t care.

Don’t worry, while we will all be forced to drive electric cars and have to get rid of our gas boilers Gatwick is planning to increase its aircraft emissions.

More corporate greenwash.

LTNman 7th Jul 2023 07:43

The other issue is the “legally binding commitments, to ensure it controls noise levels”. So what does that actually mean when the plan to increase aircraft movements to handle 75m, apart from increasing exiting noise limits first, to ensure that in the future they are high enough that they can’t be broken.

c52 7th Jul 2023 09:56

I have no wish to read the 30,000 page planning submission (or was it 300,000?) but does anyone know off the top of their head how many additional movements per hour will be possible; whether those extra movements are still ok in high winds or fog, and most important to me as a passenger, whether there is any commitment to reducing holding before landing or take-off?

Wouldn't it be nice if Gatwick became an airport where there is no congestion to cause delays? Unlikely, I'm sure. Getting an summer evening flight to Gatwick usually seems to involve an announcement from the captain explaining that the plane was on time on its first flight of the day, then added minutes of delay on each flight until it is an hour or more late on its final flight of the day.

davidjohnson6 8th Jul 2023 21:09

Potential new route to Bolzano with SkyAlps - start date unknown
https://italiavola.com/2023/07/08/sk...rto-e-gatwick/

LGWAlan 10th Jul 2023 13:03

Wasn't this previously advertised? Did it ever run?

Sotonsean 10th Jul 2023 13:58


Originally Posted by LGWAlan (Post 11464975)
Wasn't this previously advertised? Did it ever run?

It was indeed previously advertised but it never materialised. I have my doubts regarding this recent announcement. I'm surprised that they are still considering LGW rather than the likes of SEN or STN.

RHagrid 11th Jul 2023 11:02


Originally Posted by Rutan16 (Post 11453820)
TAAG are subject to EU operational restrictions banning use of D2 registered aircraft and their twice daily Lisbon regular Madrid and seasonal Oporto flights are flown by HiFly .They have been seeking to add Paris for some time however so far been declined.

To-date the CAA has continued to mirror the EU aviation exclusion and restricted operating lists, so i think TAAG will have a difficult time securing government approval anytime soon.

VOLOTEA may want add my part time home town of Nantes possibly Lyon, and Toulouse - Their biggest competitor tends to Vueling.

Play apply for slots all over the place only to hand them back - They aren’t in great financial shape to be honest.

Opinion only ITA may need to speak nicely with LH Group about some slots at Heathrow or abandon the market and rely on City (As per Luxair)

TAAG have been operating D2- registered B773's into Madrid/Barajas for many months now. Perhaps you check your sources?

davidjohnson6 11th Jul 2023 11:10

Many Angolan airlines are banned from the EU... but TAAG seems to have been granted an exception.
https://transport.ec.europa.eu/syste...3-06-07_en.pdf

Asturias56 11th Jul 2023 13:03

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TAAG_Angola_Airlines

ban on TAAG has been gradually lifted since 2009

AirportPlanner1 11th Jul 2023 17:26


Originally Posted by davidjohnson6 (Post 11465537)
Many Angolan airlines are banned from the EU...

I thought Brexit meant having the freedom and sovereignty to let un-maintained deathtraps fly here free of interference from unelected bureaucrats in Brussels?

Apron Artist 11th Jul 2023 19:05

Runway closed at 19:55. Aircraft diverting to alternates.

Apparently an Emirates has "lost" nosewheel steering.


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