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AirportPlanner1 31st May 2022 21:22


Originally Posted by davidjohnson6 (Post 11238607)
Why do Air Horizont want to go for VIP charter market.... when the likes of BA, Easyjet and TUI are desperately short of capacity and presumably will pay for wet leases ?

Perhaps the likes of Titan being wrapped up in longer-term leases has left a shortage in the VIP market?

BA318 31st May 2022 22:55


Originally Posted by davidjohnson6 (Post 11238607)
Why do Air Horizont want to go for VIP charter market.... when the likes of BA, Easyjet and TUI are desperately short of capacity and presumably will pay for wet leases ?

Depends what they think will pay better. The regular companies struggling to meet the demand means rates go up and maybe they can make adequate returns on the VIP market and become the first choice rather than the last choice in the wet lease market.

SEN Observer 1st Jun 2022 06:18

More from the Echo

Private flights running from Southend Airport | Echo (echo-news.co.uk)

Barling Magna 1st Jun 2022 12:19

Every little helps. Additionally, it was good to see the MD 87 in for paint work yesterday.

Pain in the R's 1st Jun 2022 19:06


The airline has already stationed two VIP Boeing 737-400s at the city’s airport and is offering chartered flights for private customers, businesses and sports teams.
With scheduled flights the airlines set the agenda. With this type of company the client sets the departure and arrival point so Southend could get very little out of this operation apart from empty legs and parking.

SEN Observer 5th Jun 2022 06:48

New Southend Airport summer flight routes coming soon? | Echo (echo-news.co.uk)

DC3 Dave 5th Jun 2022 20:36

I’m not a spotter (trust me!) but I have to note that a direct flight from Washington Dulles is due to arrive at SEN in around half an hour. A Dassault Falcon 8X. Can’t imagine that’s happened too many times before.

AirportPlanner1 5th Jun 2022 21:44

My perception is theres been an uplift recently in bizjets but it’s particularly noticeable on FR24 in the last couple of days. Great work by the management or restrictions elsewhere eg LTN? Or a combination?

SEN Observer 9th Jun 2022 05:46

Atmosphere has reared its head again

Airline aims to join easyjet at Southend Airport | Echo (echo-news.co.uk)

BA318 9th Jun 2022 05:50


Originally Posted by SEN Observer (Post 11243146)

Its unbelievable that the airport is not doing any due diligence on this and wasting time meeting them. I saw on his Instagram that he said he met with Glyn Jones.

DC3 Dave 9th Jun 2022 06:25


Originally Posted by BA318 (Post 11243148)
Its unbelievable that the airport is not doing any due diligence on this and wasting time meeting them. I saw on his Instagram that he said he met with Glyn Jones.

So? I met Glyn Jones once. In what way does that mean the airport is not carrying out due diligence? Besides, as Atmosphere require an aircraft to operate flights - what else needs to be said.

One last point. It is not the airport that is feeding the local press.

SWBKCB 9th Jun 2022 06:46


I saw on his Instagram that he said he met with Glyn Jones.
A reliable source?

BA318 9th Jun 2022 08:51


Originally Posted by DC3 Dave (Post 11243164)
So? I met Glyn Jones once. In what way does that mean the airport is not carrying out due diligence? Besides, as Atmosphere require an aircraft to operate flights - what else needs to be said.

One last point. It is not the airport that is feeding the local press.

Granted but the airport gave the press a quote. They should just deny it. Would you really risk the reputations damage being associated with this.

It is clear this atmosphere is never going to get off the ground so why even entertain it. A quick search of this project would be more than enough information to show why they should stay very far away from it.

SWBKCB 9th Jun 2022 08:59

In the article linked, there is only this sentence, which is as non-commital as you can get.


Southend Airport stated it would not comment on specific discussions, but confirmed talks are ongoing with a number of airlines.

LTNman 9th Jun 2022 15:16

As are all airports so nothing special there.

The disturbing thing is that SEN has yet to see any form of recovery while all the other London Airport have. This winter there are no flights and next summer will be glum for all airports, as the pent up demand of the last 2 years will be over and a massive recession and cost of living rises will mean many people will be staying at home.

How long can SEN carry on making losses?

LTNman 20th Jun 2022 19:46

https://www.echo-news.co.uk/news/202...d-uncertainly/


HOLIDAYMAKERS have been left in limbo amid growing uncertainty over easyJet flights in and out of Southend Airport.

DC3 Dave 21st Jun 2022 09:28

At the moment it looks as if the Monday AGP flight has been axed. Not available for the next 2 weeks then showing as sold out until end of October.

Spanish eyes 21st Jun 2022 11:45

Lack of crew or lack of demand?

pabely 21st Jun 2022 12:50

Easyjet Spain crews to go on strike on 9 days in July following Ryanair Spains lead.

G-ARZG 21st Jun 2022 15:05


Originally Posted by SWBKCB (Post 11243179)
A reliable source?

The Atmosphere King has said a lot of things over the years - few had any bearing to the truth, or reality even.


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