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LiamNCL 20th Jun 2021 07:09

ZFG air freight service to take off at Newcastle.
 
ZFG Air start up to operate from Newcastle ?

https://netimesmagazine.co.uk/news/n...ional-airport/


N707ZS 20th Jun 2021 08:00

Interesting correspondence address for ZFG.

ZFG AIR LIMITED - Overview (free company information from Companies House) (company-information.service.gov.uk)

Jamesair1 20th Jun 2021 08:32

I wish them the best of luck with this new venture.... there will be a lot of pressure on their initial route when Emirates restarts but hopefully, they will have signed up enough customers to sustain it by then.

LiamNCL 20th Jun 2021 08:33

This is what the Maleth Aero A330 seems to be for as stated in the article.

Jamesair1 20th Jun 2021 12:27

I'm assuming that the Board arrival flt MLT1173 ex Dubai at 1915 (tomorrow) is the first inward flight for ZFG AIR (Maleth)

LiamNCL 20th Jun 2021 13:05

Yes but its outbound to DWC was meant to be today and its been delayed until Tuesday i think so wont be arriving tomorrow 9H-LFS still on the ground at NCL

https://www.linkedin.com/company/zfg-air - ZFG linked-in profile has a bit more info on them, also has their Headquarters as Woolsington, Newcastle Upon Tyne.

southside bobby 20th Jun 2021 13:15

Be careful what you wish for...Underbelly on EK flights more especially with the very capable B773 helps sustain the commerciality into the provinces.

Jamesair1 20th Jun 2021 13:21

Point taken....worst scenario, it could cost NCL it's EK service. could be better if they concentrate on USA and Europe

SWBKCB 20th Jun 2021 14:44

The same arguement was put forward when EK arrived - they'd push out the other hub operations. Sometimes innovation/competition is a good thing.

LiamNCL 20th Jun 2021 15:14

Dont think the Airport can stand still as there is surely no gaurentee when the EK service will resume.

highwideandugly 20th Jun 2021 15:33

Exactly..if EK were bothered..they would resume..if only 3/4 times per week.

It’s a new world , new opportunities..who knows what lies ahead?

southside bobby 20th Jun 2021 17:24

Kudos at least for all the brave words & evident disdain now of a much vaunted Emirates service "to the world".

Freight on an all cargo service does not translate into tills ringing within the terminal of course either.

ATNotts 20th Jun 2021 17:54

highwideandugly

EK cannot restart PAX services into NCL as the airport, so far as I am aware, does not have a separate "red" terminal for arrivals from places such as the UAE which are on the UK "red list". Ops in to MAN, again so far as I am aware cannot carry PAX inbound, only outbound for the same reason.

Moreover with major destinations over Dubai, such as the Indian Subcontinent, Australia and Nez Zealand effective off limits for UK travellers the case for restarting until travel restrictions are lifted is pretty thin.

LiamNCL 20th Jun 2021 18:33

I'm sure everyone would love to see EK back but how likely it is to return in the near future is very slim especially with this governments form on Travel, The tills will be ringing with bucket and spade pax well before the EK touches down again i fear.

SWBKCB 20th Jun 2021 18:33

Disdain? where? EK are hugely supported by and out of NCL. Conversely, new initiatives are to be applauded in difficult times.

Freight might not ring thec tills in the terminals but it keeps the guys on the apron busy.

Good luck to them all (and anybody bulk loading the maindeck of a widebody!)

southside bobby 20th Jun 2021 19:12

Indeed the airframe specified is listed as a "preighter" = bulk loading the main deck thru a pax door!

Is the main deck reinforced? (tho probably not required)...this a/c has never been in airline service originally laid down for the USAF but never delivered.

Very labour intensive...Would possibly "The Mayor" at a certain airport become interested in poaching it say as no pax provision & specialized freight facilities required.

LiamNCL 20th Jun 2021 23:12

ZFG will be sourcing their own aircraft this A330 is just a lease to kick things off apparently.

Jamesair1 21st Jun 2021 08:08

3 x A330-200 aircraft, according to the article

LBIA 21st Jun 2021 11:40

Jet2 adding more capacity from Newcastle for summer 2022 with additional 9th based aircraft.
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https://travelweekly.co.uk/news/air/...from-newcastle
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highwideandugly 21st Jun 2021 13:01

With 3 plus big Airbus aircraft also mooted..will there be enough space to park them all? More aprons to be built anyone?

HH6702 21st Jun 2021 16:07

Good to see that Jersey is going to be served in Summer 2022 also by Jet2

LiamNCL 21st Jun 2021 16:32

highwideandugly

Likely only be one in at a time if all 3x are to operate out of NCL

SWBKCB 21st Jun 2021 17:03

First flight hasn't operated yet - let's not get carried away....

CabinCrewe 21st Jun 2021 17:23

i’ll put a small wager there will not be 3x based cargo A330’s at NCL. Just a hunch…

ATNotts 21st Jun 2021 17:41

I would put a large wager on just that. IF, and it's an extremely large "if" three A330s were acquired then you'd find then based at STN, and / or perhaps EMA. That's not to day there isn't the intention to offer some direct services from NCL. The sad fact is however that the air cargo industry believes that there are only a handful of airports in the UK, and by and large NCL isn't one of them!

LiamNCL 21st Jun 2021 18:14

Only going by what info there currently is now all we do is just see if any of it comes to fruition.

skyhawk1 21st Jun 2021 18:21

ATNotts

can see where you are coming from however, management/company seem to be north east based. EK brought in quite a bit on a daily basis but their ops put back till Nov at earliest. Would think companies would prefer a dedicated cargo flight than trying to get space on a passenger flight. More goods moved around the world and people do not want to wait weeks anymore. 3 flights a week may be optimistic but surely they will have done their homework. Here’s hoping it goes well to them.

N707ZS 21st Jun 2021 19:04

southside bobby

The company has a Stockton address so possibly already poached from Teesside, the rumoured cargo also seems to come from Teesside.

SWBKCB 21st Jun 2021 19:42

If any aviation business starting up in the north east isn't talking to Teesside, they want their lumps feeling. However, does MME have the facilities for a general cargo service of any size, for example, where do you consolidate or break down the load?

ATNotts 21st Jun 2021 20:25

skyhawk1

EK use DXB as a hub for the whole of the Far East, this operation appears to be very much HKG / DXB focussed. I'm sure they've got a core client or clients but will be relying on the air freight industry to fill up the rest of the capacity, and in a world that believes the UK begins and ends in London that ain't going to be easy. Even EMA only has weekly connection from PEK over Russia and that is basically a DHL operation.

I really admire business people for trying to move the centre of the universe from London, but going back into history, Pelican Air Cargo had a similar issue with getting business through Manchester.

skyman771 23rd Jun 2021 21:11

Some one needs to wake up..... from tonight's airport arrivals board :-

MLT1175 HONG KONG KAI TAK APT & Al Maktoum (Dubai),

maxtoon 24th Jun 2021 22:31

Ahhh, memories. Unless something drastic has happened in HK during the pandemic!

apaul 25th Jun 2021 20:27

EasyJet flying Newcastle to Jersey again three times a week July-October.

HH6702 26th Jun 2021 03:26

Palma should be going on sale shortly too

HH6702 26th Jun 2021 03:27

A330
 
see it has gone to BOH has the operation failed already ?

beedoubleu 29th Jun 2021 13:55

Does anyone know if the Vueling BCN flights on Wed & Sat, due to start tomorrow are going ahead. Nothing on airport arrivals.

GAXLN 29th Jun 2021 15:14

4th July is first date on sale at present

Jamesair1 29th Jun 2021 16:23

I wonder how the bookings are going

HH6702 29th Jun 2021 16:24

looking at the price I would say poor.
plus I think mainland Spain is still Amber

fl dutchman 4th Jul 2021 11:16

Nice to see the increased number of flights departing from NCL just now.

Still a long way from Pre Covid days but steadily increasing.


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