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LTNman 16th Aug 2020 08:15


Originally Posted by 66 and retired (Post 10861459)
LTNman, so now you are accusing the company of an illegal means of reducing the tax they pay? A very serious charge to make, one that you may have to defend. I suggest you contact the City of London Police pronto with your evidence.

First you got the company name wrong, now it’s about being based in Jersey, a British Crown Dependency. They are listed on the London Stock Exchange as a UK based airline company.

LTNman, perhaps you should read what the BOE had to say about why Wizz qualified for the loan. And yes, it’s a loan. They have not been ‘given’ the money. Or is Wizz Air UK Ltd. another issue for you?


Calm down sonny. You are soooo angry and all about nothing. I am happy to say legally reducing their tax bill while receiving UK government support. Yes we all agree they are listed on the London stock exchange but they are registered in Jersey, which is a British Crown Dependancy, have their HQ in Hungary and qualified for government loans. Their UK airline is registered to an office in Luton’s terminal which I don’t think is even staffed.

LTNman 16th Aug 2020 08:25


Originally Posted by scr1 (Post 10861754)
You think the Government has a sensible policy that it will stick to on anything??????????????

Again we have a poster who focuses on the English government yet quarantines etc are devolved decisions but there is no mention of the governments of Wales, Northern Ireland and Scotland in any post here. Why would that be?

southside bobby 16th Aug 2020 08:36

To be fair Wizz appeared to be thrown into the mix with no apparent reasoning with post #24 & the original poster been digging a few holes with corrections on the subject since..

Cloud1 16th Aug 2020 08:40


Originally Posted by LTNman (Post 10862205)
Again we have a poster who focuses on the English government yet quarantines etc are devolved decisions but there is no mention of the governments of Wales, Northern Ireland and Scotland in any post here. Why would that be?

Probably because the vast majority of airports in the U.K. fall under the English rules rather than others you list.

racedo 16th Aug 2020 09:57

Most people would be happy for a UK policy on the pandemic, (ANY POLICY), that doesn't change quicker than Megan changes dresses.

Compare and contrast across the Irish sea, pubs still shut as school getting back are more important, want to visit then 14 day quarantine................. policy is consistent.

ericsson16 16th Aug 2020 12:27


Originally Posted by LTNman (Post 10862205)
Again we have a poster who focuses on the English government yet quarantines etc are devolved decisions but there is no mention of the governments of Wales, Northern Ireland and Scotland in any post here. Why would that be?

I am in quarantine and resident near Glasgow after visiting the canary islands,my air ticket was bought and I travelled during the 3 days window of opportunity shambles,the following paragraph is from the Scottish Government,I like to call it the Stasi paragraph "If the National Contact Tracing Centre is unable to contact you via 3 phone calls or an email in order to provide you with public health advice and support during your period of stay in your specified premises, Public Health Scotland is obliged to share your contact details with Police Scotland who will continue with the follow-up process to engage, explain, encourage, and enforce the law, where necessary."

PilotLZ 16th Aug 2020 12:57

That's how it works in most countries. If you can't be reached by the health services for a random check by phone, they send the police to the address to check if you are actually there. And woe to you if you aren't. The only difference is that pretty much everywhere in the world other than the UK quarantine means that you are not allowed to step out of your home for any reason whatsoever. Not even for food. Not even to throw the rubbish bags into that bin just across the street. Not even for a quick cigarette in front of the doorstep.

Expressflight 16th Aug 2020 13:09

ericsson16

Three phone calls and an email to check if you're at the address you gave for quarantine and not getting any response from you seems a reasonable amount of effort to me. It would surely suggest you are not where you said you would be so a report to the enforcing authority doesn't seem over the top. Or would you suggest they don't bother checking people's compliance with the regulations?

ericsson16 16th Aug 2020 13:30


Originally Posted by Expressflight (Post 10862431)
ericsson16

Three phone calls and an email to check if you're at the address you gave for quarantine and not getting any response from you seems a reasonable amount of effort to me. It would surely suggest you are not where you said you would be so a report to the enforcing authority doesn't seem over the top. Or would you suggest they don't bother checking people's compliance with the regulations?

"seems a reasonable amount of effort to me",are you serious? I came from the canary island archipelago which has had 162 deaths to the UK archipelago which has had 41000+.So to be absolutely clear I am in quarantine not because I have arrived back from the Canaries but because I am now resident in what these people call a "an at-risk country" the UK.

Expressflight 16th Aug 2020 14:52

Yes, I'm serious. The regulations apply whether you consider them reasonable or not. Their reasonableness is, of course, something for discussion and you may be right in your views about that, but that was not the subject of my post.

homonculus 16th Aug 2020 14:54


If the National Contact Tracing Centre is unable to contact you via 3 phone calls or an email in order to provide you with public health advice and support during your period of stay in your specified premises, Public Health Scotland is obliged to share your contact details with Police Scotland who will continue with the follow-up process to engage, explain, encourage, and enforce the law, where necessary."
Am I the only person who has a phone that receives voice and emails anywhere in the UK and not just at a particular address?

OC37 16th Aug 2020 15:31


Originally Posted by ericsson16 (Post 10862439)
"seems a reasonable amount of effort to me",are you serious? I came from the canary island archipelago which has had 162 deaths to the UK archipelago which has had 41000+.So to be absolutely clear I am in quarantine not because I have arrived back from the Canaries but because I am now resident in what these people call a "an at-risk country" the UK.

Why not just play the game whether you/we agree with it or not, if we all tow the line and work together perhaps, just perhaps, we shall get thru this sooner rather than later.

DaveReidUK 16th Aug 2020 15:33


Originally Posted by homonculus (Post 10862495)
Am I the only person who has a phone that receives voice and emails anywhere in the UK and not just at a particular address?

If you're able to receive calls and email without the network provider having a pretty good idea of your whereabouts then, yes, you probably are the only person who can do that.

BA318 16th Aug 2020 16:08


Originally Posted by DaveReidUK (Post 10862532)
If you're able to receive calls and email without the network provider having a pretty good idea of your whereabouts then, yes, you probably are the only person who can do that.

As far as I’m aware that information isn’t shared or requested. I’ve been exempt from the quarantine based on my weekly commuting but my wife and daughter just finished their two weeks quarantine after visiting from Sweden. Not a single call or text.

Del Prado 18th Aug 2020 07:22

Last week Spain had over 18,000 new cases. An estimated (by test, track and trace) 163 of those were ‘imported’.

So if Spain had quarantined new arrivals over the past three weeks they would have cut new cases by less than 1%.

Quarantine makes such little difference it’s simply not worth it but it does poll well..


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