Originally Posted by slf001
(Post 10726386)
Norwegian Air UK was actually formed in 2015, long before the Brexit vote. Their first aircraft B738 G-NRWY was registered in November 2015.
It was always operated on behalf of Norwegian Air International (Ireland) from early 2016. When the UK registered 787s arrived in summer 2016, they initally operated on behalf on Norwegian Air Shuttle (Norway). They started operating their own flights (with DI/NRS codes) in October 2017. KT And thus, NUK was only created because of Brexit. |
https://www.theguardian.com/business...alary-covid-19
NAS or in fact their UK company that employs Pilots & Cabin Crew not paying staff this month as lack of funds. |
Originally Posted by GLAEDI
(Post 10751401)
https://www.theguardian.com/business...alary-covid-19
NAS or in fact their UK company that employs Pilots & Cabin Crew not paying staff this month as lack of funds. |
Originally Posted by Atlantic Explorer
(Post 10751614)
Surely then the UK CAA now steps in and suspends the AOC as the company is not solvent?
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"... a crew management company that directly employs Norwegian's UK crew and is half-owned by Norwegian."
Sounds complicated. How many fingers are there is the Norwegian pie? So many different Norwegian companies.... Over the past months the recently set up Norwegian Air Sweden has been receiving aircraft which were on the EI and LN registers. Is this a cost-cutting measure? The Guardian article says the Norwegian government loan guarantee will only make £24m available to Norwegian - but is this to Norwegian as a whole or to the genuinely Norwegian part of the business? That sum won't help very much. I can't see the Norwegian government too keen to rescue a company which has been building its latest empire in Sweden. |
It feels like Norwegian need nothing short of a miracle to get through this crisis. I think sadly they'll be the first significant casualty . They already were highly leveraged going into this.
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Can somebody turn the ventilator off this failed airline to avoid more pain and misery later.
Surely now there are no passengers travelling it would be the ideal time to just call it a day. this would avoid any type of rescue act as there are currently no or very few stranded passengers. somebody should pull the Operating licence as this airline is turning into a circus act I feel desperately sorry for the staff in this current climate, however from earlier this week they are not being paid. The current share price will be worthless very shortly. Norwegian had the chance of a takeover with IAG but valued themselves to highly, IAG walked away. Close them down now, unless they can show they are liquid and viable. Avoiding a disaster a few months down the line. |
Surely these UK staff have all been furloughed. The problem being that this requires the Company to pay the wages upfront and the government refunds in arrears. But they don't have the cash to even do that.
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Originally Posted by inOban
(Post 10754043)
Surely these UK staff have all been furloughed. The problem being that this requires the Company to pay the wages upfront and the government refunds in arrears. But they don't have the cash to even do that.
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The earlier post said that they were directly employed by a crew management company, itself half owned by Norwegian. So I assumed that the said company had furloughed them.
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According to Bloomberg, they are in debt to the tune of USD7.5bn. The entire company is currently valued at USD84m
I cannot see a way out for them even if their latest plan raises more funding. |
Interesting article stating that *if* Norwegian do make it to the other end of this they will be in quite a strong position in terms of fuel costs as they have done very little hedging and the price of oil has of course plummeted.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/willhor...ankruptcy/amp/ |
So lots of ifs, buts and maybes - if they survive, if the market recovers, if oil stays low...
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Norwegian CEO has posted the following statement on LinkedIn:
"Yesterday was a dark day in our history and I feel personally really sorry for all the great Red Nose Warriors we have disappointed. It is important for me to underline that we are still fighting like dogs and the extraordinary general meeting on the 4th of May is vital for our FINANCIAL RESTRUCTURE and to get access to the 3 bnok in liquidity from the Norwegian government. At the same time we are constructing a stronger NEW NORWEGIAN that will continue after Covid-19. With this in place we will fight our way back so we can rehire the majority of our great colleagues that we lost yesterday. At the end it is all about ensuring our customers and Red Nose Warriors that Norwegian will live after Covid-19 and that we can return proudly to the sky as in the picture." |
Is ‘Red Nose Warriors’ how they refer to those poor contractors as opposed to actual Norwegian employees?
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From "Travel Mole":
Low-cost Norwegian Air is planning to keep most of its flights grounded until next spring, after which it plans to start ramping up its services for the peak summer season. However, in a presentation to bondholders on Thursday it will warn that it isn't expecting flights to get back to normal until 2022. As a result, the airline needs to secure a NOK 2.7 billion loan from the Norwegian government within the next three weeks to ensure it can survive until the end of this year. It has already received NOK 300 million, but it says it needs to restructure its debt to increase its capital to release the remainder of the NOK three billion (£230 million) government loan. If it succeeds, it said the money should tide it over until the end of the year, but it warned that it might need further funding. Currently, 95% of the Norwegian's aircraft are grounded and thousands of workers are furloughed. As part of the new business plan, the carrier plans to only operate seven aircraft in the Scandinavian region until April 2021 to minimize its cash burn, and then gradually resume long-haul and European flights. Even by 2022, it expects to operate a maximum of 120 aircraft compared with 168 prior to the pandemic, focusing only on profitable routes. It is proposing a debt restructuring plan that will give aircraft leasing companies that are owed more than $3 billion more than half the equity in the airline, while bondholders would control the second largest share. The proposal would leave existing owners of the stock with just 5.2% of the airline. Bondholders are scheduled to vote on the proposals on Thursday before a shareholder meeting set for May 4. |
Remind me, how much was IAG prepared to offer?
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Gatwick slots, use them or lose them. No more Norwegian at Gatwick then?
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Slot restrictions have been waived and won’t come back for a while. No factor.
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And I don’t think Gatwick slots are going to be hard to come by. I could, for example, see BA and VS (if they make it) pull out off LGW all together and consolidate at LHR.
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The rocky road goes on...
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Does anyone know what routes, both domestically and short-haul that Norwegian *really* intends to fly in September or where this info can be found ? For many routes when trying to make a booking, up to 31 August it seems that Norwegian doesn't intend to fly at all.... and then suddenly on 01 September it looks like they revert to their 2019 schedules. If I (and presumably others) cannot see a credible schedule, it makes one nervous that the probability of flights being cancelled is high, and much more reluctant to book at all
Other airlines seem to show much steadier increases in schedules, which inspires confidence that what they say they will fly, they actually will fly |
In late June it was announced that an order for 92 737MAX and five 787s had been cancelled. Some 787s (SE-RXA/B/C) are awaiting delivery. Are they part of the cancelled order or not? Doesn't look as if long haul will be back this year in any case.
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Norwegian UK long haul pushed back to March 2021 now and Tampa dropped.
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Originally Posted by VickersVicount
(Post 10841727)
Norwegian UK long haul pushed back to March 2021 now and Tampa dropped.
What is your source can I ask? Regards BEF |
VickersViscount. Are you reading the post on RoutesOnline. If you are, read it again as they are still starting in December 2020 and only BOS & SFO have been pushed back to March 2021.
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Originally Posted by Playamar2
(Post 10841906)
VickersViscount. Are you reading the post on RoutesOnline.
Norwegian Ditch All long haul until March 2021 |
That article is from 27 April.
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Preliminary Trans-Atlantic operation on/after 28MAR21 as follows. Additional filing adjustment will be made in the next few weeks. London Gatwick – Boston 4 weekly London Gatwick – Los Angeles 5 weekly London Gatwick – Miami 3 weekly London Gatwick – New York JFK 1 daily London Gatwick – Orlando 4 weekly London Gatwick – San Francisco 4 weekly London Gatwick – Tampa Service remain cancelled Should I understand all routes will be resumed as mentioned earlier in December but starting 28th March only ones listed above will be flown? What about EZE, GIG, DEN, SEA? Above mentioned program will only require 4 aircraft. |
Vickersviscount your quoted article is 3 months old.
Norwegian posted their preliminary schedule for W20 commencing 9th Dec (RoutesOnline 17th July.). Today RoutesOnline posted a further update which was titled 'Extends preliminary schedule into S21'. As Seljuk22 says only 4 aircraft required. |
Norwegian are showing LGW-OSL operating 4x per week in August and then 3x daily in September. I find such an increase in schedule somewhat dubious, and I would take with a big pinch of salt, any planned longhaul LGW schedule that Norwegian might put on sale. This is an airline that recently had a near-death experience... they are still in a severely weakened state
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To be fair a lot of airlines are ramping up schedules in early September. BA, easy for example. Whether it happens or not is another matter
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Originally Posted by Seljuk22
(Post 10842125)
https://www.routesonline.com/news/38...dule-into-s21/
Should I understand all routes will be resumed as mentioned earlier in December but starting 28th March only ones listed above will be flown? What about EZE, GIG, DEN, SEA? Above mentioned program will only require 4 aircraft. |
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Originally Posted by USERNAME_
(Post 10873346)
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Similiar articles came out every quarter on AirBerlin for years
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Even if these articles are repetitive by nature it's hard to see how Norwegian can survive. In its related companies are about 40 787s which (I believe) have all been grounded since March, thus earning no money. At the same time further new 787s are being delivered and stored. Loans and financial incentives all seem akin to pouring vast sums of money into a big black hole with the re-commencement of limited LH work still being some way off. Sympathies are with all employees affected by this.
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