Originally Posted by Flylocal
(Post 10667211)
Seems such a shame all these new routes came in and just destabilised the marketplace. Mr Parkinson was hailing this an 'open skies' success! Yet all he has done is spent tax payers money on bringing new routes in and creating more losses for the states owned Aurigny - BONKERS!
Back to the Status Quo! Ironic they wrote a song called 'paper plane'! If you want to look at what has destabilized the market... look at Aurigny's entry into GCI-SOU and GCI-JER : fares have tumbled and pax numbers have rocketed ! |
Originally Posted by aurigny72
(Post 10667255)
As i already stated previously the Southend service could have worked well if Blue Islands had got the schedules right, starting a new route as we all know takes time to get established and in my humble opinion BI were to ambitious in starting a 7 days a week service during the summer and incredibly 5 days a week in the quiet winter months. For its first year 3-4 flights a week in the summer and no winter flights would probably have meant it would have been a viable service and it would have still been on sale for summer 2020.
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Depends how much BI were being paid to operate into Southend and when any subsidy stopped post route introduction?
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IF Blue Islands said it wasn't profitable why are Flybe going to run it ?
appears bi definitely scaling back scheduled routes or franchise with flybe ending https://gov.gg/article/176053/Econom...be-discussions |
Originally Posted by guern123
(Post 10669564)
IF Blue Islands said it wasn't profitable why are Flybe going to run it ?
appears bi definitely scaling back scheduled routes or franchise with flybe ending https://gov.gg/article/176053/Econom...be-discussions |
Didn’t someone mention that it would be 2x per week to Jersey and is bookable through to guernsey using Blue Islands as the feeder by the looks of things.
One wonders if the SEN route would be more viable now that Heathrow’s gone. Genuine low cost alternative to London and a total of 39000 pax potentially up for grabs now with neither SEN or LHR. Obviously SEN doesn’t have the connections that LHR does but less capacity across the S.East to compete with |
So what now for Blue Islands? No Flybe will they successfully go it alone?
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Yes, Derek Coates permitting, BCI will continue to "go it alone". Indeed, BEE's demise opens up opportunities for them to expand. Heaven knows they need some more profitable routes! But, such expansion carries risks & must be handled effectively. They are already operating to Exeter & Birmingham - although this might only be short term. There is the announcement that they will, apparently, be operating these two routes in competition with AUR - although, AUR will only be operating them from Guernsey - which will certainly threaten the viability for both airlines. Maybe this is just part of the general confusion in the aftermath of BEE's failure & both airlines will be a little more realistic in the coming days. Certainly, there is no room for competition on most of BEE's old routes.
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Looks like Jersey - Exeter is up to 5 times per week and Jersey - Birmingham goes daily and then seems to settle at 6 per week. Neither are showing as being avalable from Guernsey via Jersey at the moment
Oddly, Guernsey - Southend is showing up now, I am sure it wasn't earlier. The flights are blocked off as full but it just seemed odd for it to show up in the system? |
Confirmed today that Blueislands will be launching flights from Birmingham and Exeter to Jersey starting from 12th March. Initially from Exeter flights will be Tues, Weds, Fri-Sun increasing to Tues to Sun during peak summer. Birmingham gets a daily service from the start.
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I've just had a look and you can go to BHX from GCI out on a Friday back on a Sunday which will do me.
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Originally Posted by KindaUnstuck
(Post 10706155)
Looks like Jersey - Exeter is up to 5 times per week and Jersey - Birmingham goes daily and then seems to settle at 6 per week. Neither are showing as being avalable from Guernsey via Jersey at the moment
Oddly, Guernsey - Southend is showing up now, I am sure it wasn't earlier. The flights are blocked off as full but it just seemed odd for it to show up in the system? |
Do you think Blue Islands will take on the Jersey - Manchester route or
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Originally Posted by rhutch28
(Post 10706266)
Do you think Blue Islands will take on the Jersey - Manchester route or
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Originally Posted by Garstag
(Post 10706395)
The problem with Jersey - Manchester is currently EasyJet offers such cheap fares between Liverpool and Jersey it would be difficult to compete.
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Originally Posted by kcockayne
(Post 10706522)
Even more of a problem is that EZY already operates Manchester - Jersey. BEE clung on to the route despite this, but I can’t see BCI starting up such a service with EZY already incumbent; & probably expanding the service now that BEE have gone.
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Easyjet doesn’t fly between Manchester and Jersey |
Yes, they do
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EasyJet started Manchester - Jersey towards the end of last year, it's only twice per week from memory but as Jersey has Liverpool and also had routes like DSA they've never been as reliant on Manchester as Guernsey.
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Originally Posted by KindaUnstuck
(Post 10706647)
EasyJet started Manchester - Jersey towards the end of last year, it's only twice per week from memory but as Jersey has Liverpool and also had routes like DSA they've never been as reliant on Manchester as Guernsey.
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