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LiamNCL 12th Feb 2020 08:30

Good news TUI clearly been hard at work behind the scenes early doors to ensure S20 expansion wasnt just words.

pabely 12th Feb 2020 17:54


Originally Posted by P330 (Post 10685784)
Good news. This answers a lot of the questions about near term lift. Presumably if the aircraft are genuine purchases or medium term leases, it covers them into 2021 and beyond too. (As opposed to summer ACMI deals).

All leases I believe

LGS6753 12th Feb 2020 19:44


All leases I believe
It wouldn't be sensible to do anything else, with all those Maxs on order.

ROC10 12th Feb 2020 21:01

Leases in what sense though? I’m sure pretty much their entire fleet is officially “leased” in that the aircraft are not owned by TOM, but rather leasing companies. The airline have acquired these aircraft and so they will presumably be fully painted etc (or at least I’d hope so). I’m guessing possibly leased for somewhere between 6mths-2yrs.

Yeehaw22 12th Feb 2020 21:10


Originally Posted by ROC10 (Post 10686277)
Leases in what sense though? I’m sure pretty much their entire fleet is officially “leased” in that the aircraft are not owned by TOM, but rather leasing companies. The airline have acquired these aircraft and so they will presumably be fully painted etc (or at least I’d hope so). I’m guessing possibly leased for somewhere between 6mths-2yrs.

i very much doubt they'll be painted. None of these aircraft have surfaced yet so doubt they'll have time to get them painted. White tails and decals would be my bet. Then if they are staying for medium term then they'll be painted over next winter.

ROC10 12th Feb 2020 21:37


Originally Posted by Yeehaw22 (Post 10686283)
i very much doubt they'll be painted. None of these aircraft have surfaced yet so doubt they'll have time to get them painted. White tails and decals would be my bet. Then if they are staying for medium term then they'll be painted over next winter.

Yes, even just white with decals or perhaps basic blue like the old livery. TOM have never shown much interest in paining their leased aircraft even with basic decals, compared to Sunwing who usually always plaster the TUI frames with their decals. I would hope they won’t go for some sort of hybrid with Norwegian/Pegasus/FlyDubai liveries but we’ll see what happens.

jethro15 12th Feb 2020 22:05


None of these aircraft have surfaced yet.................
They are starting to

Yeehaw22 12th Feb 2020 22:13


Originally Posted by jethro15 (Post 10686312)

You sure about the 2 ex swg?

LiamNCL 12th Feb 2020 22:52


Originally Posted by Yeehaw22 (Post 10686314)
You sure about the 2 ex swg?

Due to leave the fleet ? The MAX will likely be back by the time Sunwings season starts up again after this one.

rog747 13th Feb 2020 04:42


Originally Posted by LiamNCL (Post 10686327)
Due to leave the fleet ? The MAX will likely be back by the time Sunwings season starts up again after this one.

Umm? what year are we talking Liam? ;)

LiamNCL 13th Feb 2020 05:37


Originally Posted by rog747 (Post 10686407)
Umm? what year are we talking Liam? ;)

Maybe 2022 :}

pabely 14th Feb 2020 18:51

Remember TUI is not just UK operation, perhaps the balance of 738s being acquired will go to TUI Belguim, Deutschland, Netherlands & Nordic?

AIRBUSNNS17 15th Feb 2020 13:13

Apologies in advance if this has been mentioned before but the TUI flights from Dublin are Tui Fly Nordic operating with BLX flight numbers instead of TUI Airways. Previously they wouldve been TOM flight numbers. Im wondering why this has changed?

PDXCWL45 15th Feb 2020 14:21


Originally Posted by AIRBUSNNS17 (Post 10688331)
Apologies in advance if this has been mentioned before but the TUI flights from Dublin are Tui Fly Nordic operating with BLX flight numbers instead of TUI Airways. Previously they wouldve been TOM flight numbers. Im wondering why this has changed?

Brexit? UK isn't in the EU now so TUI UK might not be able to do EU to EU?

SWBKCB 15th Feb 2020 15:06


Originally Posted by PDXCWL45 (Post 10688363)
Brexit? UK isn't in the EU now so TUI UK might not be able to do EU to EU?

We may have left, but during the transition period the old rules still apply so there is no reason why these flights couldn't be operated by TUI UK.

ROC10 15th Feb 2020 15:23

The DUB flights are operated by a TUI UK aircraft (G-TAWK) but with Nordic flight numbers/callsigns. Initially I was confused as these flights were previously operated with TOM flight numbers but I came to the conclusion that it is most likely somewhat related to Brexit.

manchesterflyer 15th Feb 2020 20:44

You're quite right, the DUB operation was modified recently to de-risk the flying programme in the event of a hard Brexit. DUB crew & flights now operate under the Nordic umberella.

Cazza_fly 16th Feb 2020 07:26


Originally Posted by manchesterflyer (Post 10688597)
You're quite right, the DUB operation was modified recently to de-risk the flying programme in the event of a hard Brexit. DUB crew & flights now operate under the Nordic umberella.

Which essentially is a mirror image of TUI Airways operations, when compared to the rest of the airline group.

CMM 16th Feb 2020 15:05

Wamos 747 positioning to MAN from MAD at the moment. Anyone know what it’s covering?

manchesterflyer 16th Feb 2020 15:26

It's covering the SID flight which was supposed to depart this morning.


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