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tictack67 23rd Jul 2020 09:25


Originally Posted by VickersVicount (Post 10843821)
Odd that EDI only route to go down from widebody 763 to 738. Maybe the only destination within range. DY did it no bother. Suppose if having to be transferred to Mainline, even though a small narrowbody, it should have a variation of AC business class which might be a plus if any of the usual leisure pax fancy it.

I believe this is an increase to 4 flights a week.

Air Canada used to fly St Johns to LHR In A320 before.

I suppose telling comfort factors will be in the seat pitch, not the size of the aircraft.

Great to see Turkish Airlines Istanbul upgraded to A321 a couple of times a week, others on B737

habs_fan 23rd Jul 2020 10:08


Originally Posted by tictack67 (Post 10844172)
I believe this is an increase to 4 flights a week.

Air Canada used to fly St Johns to LHR In A320 before.

I suppose telling comfort factors will be in the seat pitch, not the size of the aircraft.

Great to see Turkish Airlines Istanbul upgraded to A321 a couple of times a week, others on B737


AC has been 4x weekly from EDI for the last few years

edinv 23rd Jul 2020 12:36

AC YYZ/EDI
 
With AC ' vouchers $$$$ ' in hand for future travel, (hopefully from EDI!) there is an element of self interest here!

Having travelled and spoken to FAs who operated this service with ACr in the 2019 season, they worked for the most part YYZ/EDI & GLA together. e.g. An EDI arrival on a Monday would see the FAs on a GLA/YYZ the following day. Perhaps further changes to come with regard to YYZ/GLA?

As others have stated, I see a mainline A330 has been substituted on most of these former ACr routes into mainland Europe as well as the YYZ/MAN service. AC must anticipate that they will be able to sell their Business Class 'Signature' brand on these flights or alternatively for the mainland Europe routes into YYZ/YUL, does the MAX lack the range for a westbound TA flight? - Perhaps a combination of both?

The AC YYZ/EDI route is sold as Economy & Premium Economy as it was with ACr. For info, the AC YHZ/LHR, to be reinstated with the MAX, is also showing bookable in Economy & Premium Economy.

Donkey497 23rd Jul 2020 13:04

So, if by some miracle we get resumption of Ac flights before they were due to stop anyway [Mid-Sept?], do we still get a 767?

I assume the GLA 767 retention will last if / until such time as the AT takeover is finalised and the A330 is dropped.

Sk1schoolsam 23rd Jul 2020 14:14


Originally Posted by Donkey497 (Post 10844331)
So, if by some miracle we get resumption of Ac flights before they were due to stop anyway [Mid-Sept?], do we still get a 767?

I assume the GLA 767 retention will last if / until such time as the AT takeover is finalised and the A330 is dropped.

I am sure it was already reported that both EDI and GLA were shelved for this season.

Rutan16 23rd Jul 2020 16:49


Originally Posted by Donkey497 (Post 10844331)
So, if by some miracle we get resumption of Ac flights before they were due to stop anyway [Mid-Sept?], do we still get a 767?

I assume the GLA 767 retention will last if / until such time as the AT takeover is finalised and the A330 is dropped.

All rouge 763s are resting . Indeed the brand may be no more.

Porrohman 24th Jul 2020 08:00


Originally Posted by Rutan16 (Post 10844478)
All rouge 763s are resting . Indeed the brand may be no more.

The premium cabin in Rouge B763s was a very substandard, dated, shabby offering, especially compared to premium economy in AC B789 and A333. It'll be interesting to see what options the mainline B38M offers.

habs_fan 24th Jul 2020 10:22


Originally Posted by Porrohman (Post 10844930)
The premium cabin in Rouge B763s was a very substandard, dated, shabby offering, especially compared to premium economy in AC B789 and A333. It'll be interesting to see what options the mainline B38M offers.

premium cabin on the MAX. Big change will be having built in IFE and not just steaming
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....eccf35c89.jpeg
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....dbc936aef.jpeg

CabinCrewe 24th Jul 2020 17:45

Looks quite nice. Probably easier to fill a smaller premium cabin, though mainline prices vs Rouge will put some off I suspect.

Porrohman 25th Jul 2020 15:54


Originally Posted by CabinCrewe (Post 10845382)
Looks quite nice. Probably easier to fill a smaller premium cabin, though mainline prices vs Rouge will put some off I suspect.

Air Canada classes these as business class seats but they look more like premium economy to me. It'll be interesting to see what the fares are like.

tictack67 25th Jul 2020 18:22


Originally Posted by Porrohman (Post 10846046)
Air Canada classes these as business class seats but they look more like premium economy to me. It'll be interesting to see what the fares are like.

Fares are now online.

That's because they are premium economy. The Flight is only sold as Economy and Premium economy.

Sk1schoolsam 28th Jul 2020 06:19

Norwegian
 
Norwegian have cancelled their EDI flights for the month of August from EDI (CPH and Oslo). Anyone know why?

GrahamK 28th Jul 2020 07:22


Originally Posted by Sk1schoolsam (Post 10847848)
Norwegian have cancelled their EDI flights for the month of August from EDI (CPH and Oslo). Anyone know why?

No demand would be my guess. Think SAS are still flying to OSL and EZY/FR to CPH?

habs_fan 28th Jul 2020 07:22


Originally Posted by Sk1schoolsam (Post 10847848)
Norwegian have cancelled their EDI flights for the month of August from EDI (CPH and Oslo). Anyone know why?

most likely due to low booked figures on the flights

inOban 28th Jul 2020 08:02

Not just Norwegian. Hasn't been a Qatar flight for over a week.

CabinCrewe 28th Jul 2020 09:12


Originally Posted by inOban (Post 10847916)
Hasn't been a Qatar flight for over a week.

Some of their outbound flights had barely double digits (and only slightly higher on inbound). Presumably the larger cargo loads weren’t even worth it (though less on 787 cw A350).

Sk1schoolsam 28th Jul 2020 09:49


Originally Posted by inOban (Post 10847916)
Not just Norwegian. Hasn't been a Qatar flight for over a week.

Is this only happening at Edinburgh or are Qatar and others cancelling flights to other uk airports due to low demand?

Plane mad 134 28th Jul 2020 09:56


Originally Posted by Sk1schoolsam (Post 10847983)
Is this only happening at Edinburgh or are Qatar and others cancelling flights to other uk airports due to low demand?

Qatar have outright cancelled all CWL and BHX flights until October. And are running reduced frequencies at other airports. They are due to restart 3x weekly B787-8 flights from EDI on Wednesday which will increase to 4x weekly from September.

Now what really gets me is EK plan to fly a daily B777-300ER from September 1st. Only LHR and MAN will have more Emirates flights per week. With BHX 5x weekly B777 and GLA 4x weekly. With LGW/STN/NCL cancelled until October. I would hazard a guess that Emirates may want people from NCL and GLA (on the days they won't operate) to drive to EDI and fly. This may all change of course.

Link Kilo 28th Jul 2020 13:37


Originally Posted by Plane mad 134 (Post 10847986)
Now what really gets me is EK plan to fly a daily B777-300ER from September 1st. Only LHR and MAN will have more Emirates flights per week. With BHX 5x weekly B777 and GLA 4x weekly. With LGW/STN/NCL cancelled until October. I would hazard a guess that Emirates may want people from NCL and GLA (on the days they won't operate) to drive to EDI and fly. This may all change of course.

It has indeed changed - EK now not restarting EDI until 1st October (at the time of writing).

tictack67 28th Jul 2020 13:45


Originally Posted by Plane mad 134 (Post 10847986)
Now what really gets me is EK plan to fly a daily B777-300ER from September 1st. GLA 4x weekly. With LGW/STN/NCL cancelled until October. I would hazard a guess that Emirates may want people from NCL and GLA (on the days they won't operate) to drive to EDI and fly.

Why does this get you upset?

Edinburgh users had to travel to Glasgow for years to use services.

Best thing that happened, break up of BAA monopoly.





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