Originally Posted by BAladdy
(Post 10297643)
Loganair have today announced new year round routes from EDI to BGO, SVG and ILY for S19. They also plan to operate operate a seasonal service to GCI. Flights to BGO, GCI and GCI will be operated by a 37 seat ER3 http://www.travelweekly.co.uk/articl...from-edinburgh |
Do better than “LOL”, at least try to add something... Small volume routes the big boys won’t go for on a jet that’s not super expensive to fly at current fuel prices. Knowing EDI they’ll be bussing for miles like flybe alas..... |
Originally Posted by Skipness One Foxtrot
(Post 10297703)
Do better than “LOL”, at least try to add something... Small volume routes the big boys won’t go for on a jet that’s not super expensive to fly at current fuel prices. Knowing EDI they’ll be bussing for miles like flybe alas..... |
Originally Posted by tomahawk98
(Post 10297856)
The route isn't compatible with the ERJ135.
Link says that BGO, SVG and GCI will be on E135 and ILY is on S340. |
I seem to recall that GCI cannot take a fully loaded 145 due to stopping distance, but the 135 is ok - am I right?
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No problem then, Jerbourg, when the runway has been extended. I |
Originally Posted by Jerbourg
(Post 10298008)
I seem to recall that GCI cannot take a fully loaded 145 due to stopping distance, but the 135 is ok - am I right?
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Loganair website now has Orkney inter-island airports listed in drop down menu.
With Flybe being valued at £24m last week might BM/LM pounce? That would be a turn up! |
Originally Posted by SealinkBF
(Post 10301150)
Loganair website now has Orkney inter-island airports listed in drop down menu.
With Flybe being valued at £24m last week might BM/LM pounce? That would be a turn up! |
Or pick on the carcass?
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Originally Posted by Navpi
(Post 10301202)
Or pick on the carcass?
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Does anyone have any ideas on what the next route announcements will be, I expect Glasgow will get a few and Edinburgh will also probably get a few more routes seeing as the based Emb135 at Edinburgh only has a daily flight scheduled and would be sitting around for a while.
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which I doubt they would have the strength to do |
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Originally Posted by PDXCWL45
(Post 10301196)
How would that benefit them?
Before a restructure which saw Manx take over most of their routes, Loganair was a huge UK regional airline. Flybe routes like Belfast to Manchester, Glasgow and Edinburgh were all Loganair routes. |
Originally Posted by Plane mad 134
(Post 10301343)
Does anyone have any ideas on what the next route announcements will be, I expect Glasgow will get a few and Edinburgh will also probably get a few more routes seeing as the based Emb135 at Edinburgh only has a daily flight scheduled and would be sitting around for a while.
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The INV ERJ has a fair bit of spare time, especially in the winter, any chance of more euro routes from INV? Perhaps CDG with their AF/KLM links? They could ever do this route from GLA as well, seeing that they might have more success than HOP with their smaller A/C.
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Nothing yet about the proposed Carlisle routes.....if a March 19 start is planned, surely they must be going on sale soon?
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I always get slightly concerned about non based W patterns in terms of time keeping and reliability, especially with a random fleet |
Originally Posted by VickersVicount
(Post 10301639)
I always get slightly concerned about non based W patterns in terms of time keeping and reliability, especially with a random fleet |
The E135 schedule is certainly tight during the week. 8 sector days with generally only 30-45mins ground time.
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Originally Posted by Fly757X
(Post 10301646)
Over Longer sectors they tend to work better. In this case it will be hit or miss, especially considering GCI's regular spells of low vis.
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Originally Posted by virginblue
(Post 10301971)
GCI is a seasonal flight only on saturdays, so very little risk as the aircraft will most likely have a more relaxed schedule on saturdays.
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Expansion is huge and goes so fast for them.. as they need high yield I do hope all these start ups dont start a proces we dont want to see logan air in! |
Wonder if Scotland’s airline has deep enough pockets to take over an old flame that tried to extinguish then less than a year ago... |
Makes more sense than the ideas of many other posters.
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Originally Posted by ifu05596
(Post 10311456)
Wonder if Scotland’s airline has deep enough pockets to take over an old flame that tried to extinguish then less than a year ago... |
Originally Posted by mwm991
(Post 10311482)
Can't see it. At most they will pick up on any dropped BE Scottish routes.
Probably not likely, though. |
Wouldn’t rule it out could be something interesting if the estate was divided between bmi and Loganair. I think from a balance sheet perspective the group is quite strong and Loganair is constrained by lack of available aircraft and has an aging fleet... that and from a brand perspective - Loganair over Flybe every minute of every day... |
Flybe would be an awfully big mouthful (in relative terms) to be digested by the combination of Loganair and bmi. Furthermore, Loganair has prospered by being a rather conservative airline - they are not known for taking great risks.
That said, I could see Loganair biting off a *chunk* of Flybe - perhaps taking on some aircraft, crew and the thinner routes from Scotland to airports in the rest of the UK which won't support double daily A320 service (most definitely not the ones to London) |
I think if Flybe is carved up then BMI and Loganair will take a chunk if they can but taking on Flybe would be a mistake, especially inheriting a load of q400 aircraft when their move has been towards ATR. Definetley reoresents an opportunity for the AIL group though I would think. |
Loganair have signed an interlining single ticket agreement with Emirates for their Dundee-Stansted PSO service covering onward travel STN to DXB & a further 155 connecting destinations.
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Thanks SSB - some real, meaningful news amongst all the yards of speculation.
Should help the "global connectivity" which is what this PSO route is all about. |
Interesting move by Loganair to introduce Bournemouth to Channel Islands routes in competition with Flybe at Southampton |
Loganair have announced new routes from Bournemouth to Jersey and Guernsey on E135 aircraft.
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Loganair have announced new routes from Bournemouth to Jersey and Guernsey on E135 aircraft. |
Originally Posted by 22/04
(Post 10312907)
Are these w patterns- if so probably a good way to use the aircraft especially in the current climate- sadly they will take business for next summer from an ailing FlyBe
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Originally Posted by 22/04
(Post 10312907)
Are these w patterns- if so probably a good way to use the aircraft especially in the current climate- sadly they will take business for next summer from an ailing FlyBe
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Originally Posted by 22/04
(Post 10312907)
sadly they will take business for next summer from an ailing FlyBe
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Do you have this on good authority?
I am sceptical about the success of 'regional' airline services from BOH because of the list of failures in the past and the inability to compete with the high frequency of flights at SOU. What seems to work at BOH is low cost as it appeals to a wider catchment area and is far less bothered about frequency. The higher fares of regionals reduce that potential customer base and make it unviable (for BOH). BOH saw double daily services to Prestwick with Ryanair but the pax were all paying next to nothing. Flybe also tried double daily Glasgow flights that lasted less than a year before being consolidated at SOU. The operators that have tried and failed with BOH-Scotland include: Euroscot Express (1-11 and ATR-72), 55,000 pax to GLA (1997/8) Gill Air (ATR-72/42), 29,000 pax to GLA (1999) Ryanair (738) 120,000 pax to GLA and 80,000 pax to EDI (2003-2010) Flybe (Q400) 33,000 pax (2015) |
Mention on CH Aviation of LC supplementing their Saab 340 fleet... I thought they were looking for ATRs? |
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