EI/EIR have a contract clause on Scotland routes and overcoming this could be a problem but LHR will be guaranteed from next summer and may potentially be the only route in 2019.
Also there would be much more tangible benefits if the A321CEOs were deployed on LHR/CDG etc and the A321NEOS went to the likes of FAO etc. This is due to the increased fuel needed on those routes making it more economical. |
It looks like one of the new A330's will need a little TLC.
While under tow to the gate in SFO EI-GAJ rubbed up against a wall https://www.independent.ie/irish-new...-36941213.html https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/loca...483521901.html Edit: View looking from the front of the aircraft (credit Facebook via Boards.ie) https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/atta...7&d=1527158552 JAS |
Originally Posted by Just a spotter
(Post 10155593)
It looks like one of the new A330's will need a little TLC.
While under tow to the gate in SFO EI-GAJ rubbed up against a wall https://www.independent.ie/irish-new...-36941213.html https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/loca...483521901.html Edit: View looking from the front of the aircraft (credit Facebook via Boards.ie) https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/atta...7&d=1527158552 JAS |
DUB-FRA-DUB
Regular traveller on DUB-FRA route. I travel out Fridays and back mainly on Sun & Mon. Have noticed a sharp decrease in passenger numbers on Aer Lingus flights. (49 pax this evening for example). LH have increased frequency on the route. FR are starting Oct. perhaps AerLingus bussing people out to the satellite stands or the check in T2 and walk to T1 has had an adverse effect? Or LH more frequent (but generally more expensive) service with connections is more attractive? FR launch prices are not that great but if they reduce them I can’t see EI on the route this time next year. |
Originally Posted by Sober Lark
(Post 10174735)
Regular traveller on DUB-FRA route. I travel out Fridays and back mainly on Sun & Mon. Have noticed a sharp decrease in passenger numbers on Aer Lingus flights. (49 pax this evening for example). LH have increased frequency on the route. FR are starting Oct. perhaps AerLingus bussing people out to the satellite stands or the check in T2 and walk to T1 has had an adverse effect? Or LH more frequent (but generally more expensive) service with connections is more attractive? FR launch prices are not that great but if they reduce them I can’t see EI on the route this time next year. LH/EI attract very different types of passengers with EI been heavily O&D and LH connections. |
Thanks Jamie, but 101 put on their Friday morning 15 June service and I recall even less on the same service on the Friday of the June bank holiday weekend. Been doing that route every week or two for the last two years and the drop off in numbers with EI is very noticeable. EI generally have the most competitive fares and I like the airline but due to overall convenience LH gets my business if they are no more than an EI +€40 in the difference roundtrip. Have used FR from FRA on other routes but at present it’s a hell of a long bus journey from the terminal to their stand and the fares FR have on offer at present just wouldn’t entice me away from EI or LH. |
A350's still coming?
IB received its first A350 today, 26th June, and the first of the type for the IAG family.
According to the FlightGlobal article on the delivery; Parent IAG's UK carrier British Airways has 18 A350-1000s on order while its Irish operator Aer Lingus is taking nine A350-900s. Is FlightGlobal just working off out of date information? Has no decision been made on the original A350 announcement? Or have the slots been reallocated within IAG and just not relabled? Does anyone know for certain if the A350's are still arriving to EI? JAS |
FlightGlobal just working on old information.
Aer Lingus explained its future fleet plan at an investors meeting last year and no A350s were visible well into the 2020s. The fleet will focus on A321LR and A333 for the foreseeable but those saying the order is "dead" or "will never happen" are naive as that's not the way IAG works. Within IAG any aircraft currently on the books could go to any airline should a business case be put forward and be successful, if in a few years Aer Lingus decide its ready for next generation aircraft it could get them pretty quickly by either dipping into the IAG orders or exercising options held by the group just like they did with the recent A333s. The A321LR was ordered pretty quickly once Aer Lingus displayed to IAG the business case was there for them. So are the original 9 A350s still coming to Aer Lingus? No. Could they still arrive at a later date? Definitely. |
So are the original 9 A350s still coming to Aer Lingus? No. Could they still arrive at a later date? Definitely. |
Originally Posted by Skipness One Foxtrot
(Post 10182238)
OK so they're going to Iberia or BA instead? IAG are still taking them?
The majority of the original order hadn't been assigned production numbers by Airbus yet, by early 2016 only the first aircraft had been given MSN 197 with delivery scheduled for Q2 2018 but that was later assigned to Vietnam Airlines, obviously not an IAG carrier. Obviously IAG already has an A350 order pool, I'm not sure if that officially went up by 9 units when Aer Lingus joined the group or not and that's the only way to tell where those aircraft went. The original slot was clearly reassigned by Airbus on instruction from Aer Lingus/IAG sometime in 2016. When I suggested the aircraft could arrive at a later date, I was talking about the larger A350 order already at IAG including options which could be exercised relatively quickly like the recent brand new A333 arrivals. |
How many passengers were affected by NOC/Gatwick flight on 28/06/2018 that was canceled?
What was the real reason? |
Is anybody a member of Aerclub? I’ve just signed up. I’ve been looking at the conceirge level: 4 free upgrades complimentary passenger are these 4 free upgrades guaranteed, in that you book an economy flight and they upgrade you there and then? I need confirmation of this before I dedicate myself to flying back and forth between Belfast and Heathrow. I wouldn’t want to spend all that time and money only to discover that it doesn’t guarantee me an upgrade. |
Originally Posted by owenc
(Post 10191521)
Is anybody a member of Aerclub? I’ve just signed up. I’ve been looking at the conceirge level: 4 free upgrades complimentary passenger are these 4 free upgrades guaranteed, in that you book an economy flight and they upgrade you there and then? I need confirmation of this before I dedicate myself to flying back and forth between Belfast and Heathrow. I wouldn’t want to spend all that time and money only to discover that it doesn’t guarantee me an upgrade. In all honestly, if you’re dedicating yourself to flying BHD-LHR just to get Concierge and a couple of upgrades a year, I wouldn’t bother. |
Why not? I fly back and forth constantly (but not heathrow). |
If that's the case go for it, you'll obviously get plenty of other rewards working through the tiers.
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Fair enough Shamrock. It is a treck from my University to Heathrow but I thought it might be worth it for the free Business Class upgrades. I wanted to be sure that it’d be guaranteed though. I will maybe give it a trial run. |
Owen,
Unless you can advance a level by 1 December 2018, there is no point in starting until after 1 Dec. They reset it annually so you have 1 year to move up a tier. |
Reset what? The points? Avios too? |
Originally Posted by owenc
(Post 10191907)
Fair enough Shamrock. It is a treck from my University to Heathrow but I thought it might be worth it for the free Business Class upgrades. I wanted to be sure that it’d be guaranteed though. I will maybe give it a trial run. You do know that Aer Lingus do not do business class on short haul yet? I likely never to be from BHD I’d they do introduce it. The upgrades are are on the long haul flights to America operates by A330/B757 and soon to be A321N-LR. Your ur best bet is to open a BA account. That way claim both miles for travelling on BA and EI and earn your way up through the tiers. U should be silver in no time which gets you lounge access and other perks. |
Yes I was planning on using it on a long haul return flight, on Aer Lingus. I am aware of that. It now sounds like it’s not feasible based on what members are saying. |
Originally Posted by owenc
(Post 10191936)
Reset what? The points? Avios too? In general, unless you are going to pay for Plus tickets from LHR then its not worth it as many of the basic fares are only 7.5 and not 15 credits. You only get 15 on saver fares if you spend I think more than 70 euro each way so whatever the equivalent in points. |
That sounds like a hassle not worth pursuing. Such a pity they reset in December. |
The points anniversary is from when you join. Mine is the 21st of November. I have 1 year from that date to accumulate as many points as I can or need. I travel ORK-LHR- ORK several times a month and I'm silver, I've no desire to go further, it's all I need on the route. Priority boarding, fast track and lounge access. There is no business class to be upgraded to. I have just reached my points total to be renewed as a silver card, earlier than November. I believe my points anniversary will still be from November so any points between now and then may be lost. On the other hand my points anniversary may run from now. The email wasn't clear. I'm due a new card and letter which may explain more. |
Thanks PC767, I might email Aerclub and ask them when the renewal date is. |
If you log into aer club or via the Aer Lingus app and scroll the virtual card over the screen it will show you your anniversary date.
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IAG ordered 2 more A332s for level at Farnborough this morning for delivery next year. Any chance of a few end of line HGW -300s for EI or do they need to sing a bit louder for their lunch? |
Originally Posted by EI-BUD
(Post 10194527)
If you log into aer club or via the Aer Lingus app and scroll the virtual card over the screen it will show you your anniversary date.
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Originally Posted by owenc
(Post 10198986)
2nd july 2019. So does that mean that I will lose points at that date? So booking a business class upgrade for next summer would be impossible? You will also keep any miles earned but your status points will be reset so you will have points to ‘purchase’ an upgrade. You’ll also get to keep for a year, whatever status you achieve between now and July 2019. |
Fares to san francisco are never low. |
Originally Posted by owenc
(Post 10199016)
Fares to san francisco are never low. I only say this because you have a plan to collect points to upgrade. If you can’t get your desired upgrade, it might be much more cost effect to fly on an orange tailed or harp tailed bus between Belfast and London :) Good luck with whatever you choose! |
Yeah. It came down to £1700 a few months ago, not sure how likely that is to happen again. It sounds like the flyer miles aren’t worth it... |
Why do you need to fly business ? Economy fares to the west coast are very reasonable.
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It’s a long flight. |
Originally Posted by Una Due Tfc
(Post 10198898)
IAG ordered 2 more A332s for level at Farnborough this morning for delivery next year. Any chance of a few end of line HGW -300s for EI or do they need to sing a bit louder for their lunch? |
Would be great to see one of the A321LR`s on a Cork-New York route.
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We have seen that transatlantic doesn’t work from Cork. |
I don't think it's as straight forward as you are making it out by saying, 'Transatlantic doesn't work from Cork'. While I think Cork is a regional airport, and the reality of flights across the US is a completely unrealistic expectation, you also need to look at the offering that is there for transatlantic at the moment. Norwegian, while they deserve credit for offering the first direct route, fly into Providence... this is marketed as Boston, but the reality is, Providence is not Boston, and should not be marketed as Boston! This is like FR marketing Hahn as Frankfurt. There is no possibility of onward connections to other areas in the US, and the days of week the service is offered are all over the place. I fly to the US quite often, but the service they offer never makes sense, in terms of outbound and return. Cork needs a regular service to either New York or Boston, where people can connect onwards to other destinations. If it's EI that offer this, great, I personally don't think they will, but that's just an opinion! I think Cork needs to find a carrier that will be able to fly passengers into a larger airport, with good onward flight opportunities...
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They do already. Shannon, Dublin or they fly to LHR/AMS etc. Therein lies the problem with Cork and why Norwegian have curtailed routes. The demand is thin and Cork have demonstrated time and time over that they are extremely price sensitive and show little brand loyalty. Putting in a TA aircraft for AL will only dilute their loads out of Dublin and Shannon. Same if they were to put a BFS based A330.
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A 757 could do Belfast. We already had that for 10 years +. It was pulled for Transcontinental flights. There is no question of this as our population and population density is much larger than the areas surrounding Cork, and we can provide financial backing. |
It's not so much that people in Cork have shown themselves to be price sensitive as that they have shown themselves to be willing to take a direct flight from Dublin in preference to a connecting flight from Cork. So for Aer Lingus there is absolutely no point looking at the service. If significant numbers of people were routing via LHR, CDG, AMS to get to New York, Aer Lingus would seriously look at the service as another airline would be getting the bulk of the revenue. If another airline started offering a successful direct service, Aer Lingus would probably react with a direct service as that would impact on Dublin numbers.
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