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EI-BUD 24th Jul 2020 12:03


Originally Posted by virginblue (Post 10845003)
Do you suggest a BHD-CFN route on an ATR72? For starters, it is hardly 120 miles...

I think it is worth a try when the economic climate improves, it's a long uncomfortable drive to Donegal and besides the aircraft down time could mean a filler between flights. Potentially 4 times a week.

I take the points re Shannon, but we'll see how it all goes.

EI-BUD 24th Jul 2020 12:04


Originally Posted by euromanxdude (Post 10845001)
Flybe seemed to run a lot of marginal or even unprofitable routes so I'm sure if Cork was even vaguely viable they would have tried it. They would presumably have had some data on the route as from what I recall it was operated as a Flybe franchise by Manx2 before the tragic crash. I think the ATR planes would just be too big for the route. If was going to work it would need a smaller plane and Eastern or Loganair would be better placed for this.

Flybe had nothing to do with Manx2. BHD-ORK was not operated as Flybe franchise. Pure Manx2 operation

It was originally Jetmagic followed by Aer Arann..

Husky One 25th Jul 2020 00:55

Jersey European used to fly BHD-ORK in the 90’s using their Shed.

CCR 25th Jul 2020 04:09

I used fly on the Aer Arann/Stobart ATR72 services between Belfast and Cork in the noughties and the loads were always good. They had a double daily service between Belfast and Cork.
When the flight was full, I used take a flight from Dublin to Cork. There were actually 11 flights a day from Dublin to Cork between Aer Arann and Ryanair during the Celtic Tiger era.
Ryanair eventually drove Aer Arann off the route with super low fares. Irish Rail also had an impact when they introduced hourly departures between Dublin and Cork as well as the new motorway when it was completed in 2010.

The drive from Belfast to the border these days is via motorway and dual carriageway. Once you cross the border into the Republic, the roads are better and it's motorway all the way to Cork. A drive from Belfast to Cork takes 4 hours.
Thats the biggest obstacle to a reintroduction of Belfast-Cork flights, though it probably still is viable with business traffic as a double daily after the pandemic.

An Aer Lingus Regional feeder service from Belfast to Shannon for transatlantic flights would certainly attract business travellers with US immigration being done in Shannon.
That would be more profitable for Aer Lingus than the A330 Belfast to US flights via Shannon that they did in the 1990s.
The Aer Lingus Regional Belfast to Shannon service could at some stage be upgraded to the Aer Lingus A321NEO that Aer Lingus operate from Shannon to the US if demand is sufficient from Belfast. Though leisure pax will probably still drive or take the bus to Dublin airport.

Alteagod 31st Jul 2020 14:42

I see that is is being reported on RTE that EI reviewing ORK and SNN operations. Might have helped sway decision to open BHD base.

PPRuNeUser0176 31st Jul 2020 15:02

Its EI reviewing the mainline bases not Stobart bases. EI had no say the new routes from BHD.

DUB19 3rd Aug 2020 22:52

Anyone know how the loads were on the KLM AMS today?

DUB19 6th Aug 2020 14:56

EI-FAS (EIR ATR) just landed from Kerry

mart901 21st Aug 2020 14:06

MME going double daily on 3 days per week from next month.

allan1987 21st Aug 2020 19:49

ABERDEEN AND BELFAST FLIGHTS FROM TEESSIDE AIRPORT DOUBLED

https://www.teessideinternational.co...rport-doubled/


From Monday 7 September the Aberdeen flights will depart twice a day on Mondays, Tuesdays and Wednesdays, with an additional connection running on Sundays. Belfast will take to the skies with a twice-daily service on Mondays, Tuesdays and Thursdays alongside new weekend routes for leisure passengers.

Alteagod 22nd Aug 2020 07:56

Is SOU also not going double daily a few days?

The Nutts Mutts 22nd Aug 2020 08:51

SOU goes double daily from the 14th September.

ECR 28th Aug 2020 09:43

Some of the Aer Lingus Regional flights to Belfast City have started yesterday.

Unfortunately though this morning's EI3651 from Edinburgh seems to have been diverted to Dublin.

mart901 30th Aug 2020 21:19

Looking at EI/LHR for summer 21 they have 4x daily every day. That's the highest frequency its been for a while. The original plan this year was similar to last with 4x daily only certain days.

Alteagod 30th Aug 2020 21:26

Massive EI pressence at BHD moving forward and the IAG group in general with additional LCY flights. Great to see. Maybe even see the sun routes back. Im sure the demand will be there next year

DUB19 30th Aug 2020 21:41


Originally Posted by mart901 (Post 10874495)
Looking at EI/LHR for summer 21 they have 4x daily every day. That's the highest frequency its been for a while. The original plan this year was similar to last with 4x daily only certain days.

don’t see the 4x daily LHR happening. They have the usual 13:10 flight scheduled and the extra flight at 13:15. The 13:15 flight is double the price of the other flights also.

allan1987 30th Aug 2020 21:51


Originally Posted by Alteagod (Post 10874496)
Massive EI pressence at BHD moving forward and the IAG group in general with additional LCY flights. Great to see. Maybe even see the sun routes back. Im sure the demand will be there next year

That is a good question, I wounder would it be BA Cityflyer or Eastern Airways would run to LGW and few sun routes next year

camperdown9 31st Aug 2020 07:38


Originally Posted by mart901 (Post 10874495)
Looking at EI/LHR for summer 21 they have 4x daily every day. That's the highest frequency its been for a while. The original plan this year was similar to last with 4x daily only certain days.

I was looking at LHR-BHD rtn for June and July next year and at the moment the schedule on the website is still just showing three flights. Do you know the times of the extra flight?

The current schedule isn't great if you are going westbound I mean to Belfast for a day. The earliest EI can get you there is 1230.

Alex


ECR 31st Aug 2020 16:28


Originally Posted by camperdown9 (Post 10874752)
I was looking at LHR-BHD rtn for June and July next year and at the moment the schedule on the website is still just showing three flights. Do you know the times of the extra flight?

The current schedule isn't great if you are going westbound I mean to Belfast for a day. The earliest EI can get you there is 1230.

Alex

Not sure what day of the week you are looking to travel, but looked at a couple of random days in June and July and there is a British Airways flight from LBR-BHD which will get into Belfast at 8.30am. It also looks like BA is cheaper than Aer Lingus.

The96er 31st Aug 2020 16:39


Originally Posted by ECR (Post 10875266)
Not sure what day of the week you are looking to travel, but looked at a couple of random days in June and July and there is a British Airways flight from LBR-BHD which will get into Belfast at 8.30am. It also looks like BA is cheaper than Aer Lingus.

Now that scope clauses and other agreements are being discraded in this brave new world, expect to see a harmonisation of scheduling, particually between IAG companies such as EI and BA across the sea. Does it really make sense to have night stopping crews at each end. LHR to BHD/DUB come to mind with a 2 airline/single offering approach.


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