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EI-A330-300 23rd Apr 2018 22:09

Santander was for planned Rugby specials, loaded from SNN as well.

Jack1985 23rd Apr 2018 22:56


Originally Posted by EI-A330-300 (Post 10128138)
Santander was for planned Rugby specials, loaded from SNN as well.

Ah! Many thanks

840 24th Apr 2018 08:14

It's only showing as bookable on Saturdays from November. Now I do believe that the extra capacity could be offered from November to February just with extra utilization of the current fleet, but after that something has to give.

Incidentally, Lanzarote was 4x weekly with Aer Lingus over the last Winter season, so even 3x weekly would be a small reduction.

irishbcn 25th Apr 2018 08:38

KLM Codeshare
It seems that over the summer the KLM codeshare is on only a few of the flights but in the winter it returns to all of them, at least on the KLM website.

AerRyan 18th Jun 2018 19:12

Gdansk was never year round

snn20 18th Jun 2018 19:38


Originally Posted by AerRyan (Post 10176108)
Gdansk was never year round

Been year round since it began in W06/07!

AerRyan 19th Jun 2018 00:42

My mistake, thought it was just Wroclaw

Corkshamrock 11th Jul 2018 06:46

Just wondering do you know what the EI movements in regards aircraft over next week. Heading to FAO on 23rd just wondering will GAM,DEF,DEG or DEH be moved back to DUB and replaced? always interested to see what one i would end up on.

CCR 18th Jul 2018 08:57

Any new route announcements for Cork? It`s all gone a bit quiet. Don`t see why Aer Lingus don`t extend their Dusseldorf service all year round, it seems to be going well.
London routes are really busy, time for Stobart to come in a launch a route to London Southend or London City. Brussels on an ATR72 would suit Cork too!

CCR 19th Jul 2018 22:47

Bet Stobart are not too pleased with the current Aer Lingus IT problems. It`s not possible to book flights between Cork and Southampton all day long...good news for Ryanair and their London Gatwick service, though that is almost always full anyway like their London Stansted services! Cork needs more services to London.

840 20th Jul 2018 09:57

I agree that London could support more capacity, but who will provide it?

Aer Lingus and Ryanair have an interest in keeping yields high and will fight to keep others away.

Gatwick, in particular, could do with more capacity, but Ryanair's position there is defensive, trying to ensure that the route is unattractive to any carrier who may come in and dilute yields on their Stansted service.

In some ways, the least resistance would be on increases to Heathrow, where IAG could decide that more connecting traffic could compensate for a reduction in yield, but where is a slot going to come from in Heathrow? Cork is lucky to have the level of service it has at the moment.

CCR 20th Jul 2018 11:14

Another day of Aer Lingus IT problems, Cork-Southampton is still not bookable but poor old Stobart (Aer Lingus Regional) are still operating the flights!
Aer Lingus are causing Stobart a loss of revenue!
Regarding more services between London and Cork, an increase in London Gatwick services is really needed but I agree Ryanair are loath to do it.
FlyBe from London City or Stobart from London Southend or London Luton would be the lead candidates I think for more services between London and Cork.

840 20th Jul 2018 11:17

In some good news, Norwegian's Providence service is confirmed for summer 2019 at the same frequency as this year.

corkfly 15th Aug 2018 01:27

Dublin route?
 
Just some ideas and thoughts on route development; I've always been curious as to whether there is opportunity to restart the Ork-Dub service, and if there is demand for a service offering connectivity through Dub rather than relying on point to point traffic alone. Such a service could have the potential to boost passenger numbers at Ork, transit numbers in Dub, car park revenues at Cork, incremental connecting traffic with the airline(s) and associated incremental revenue from such a service offering.

Would there be any potential interest in Stobart or even EI offering a Dublin route with the main aim for connectivity to EIs long haul (or even short haul?) flights? Yes there are cheap aircoach fares to Dublin, but surely there would be a proportion of people that would pay for the convenience of through checking to/from Cork with the convenience of baggage transfers and transit security function in Dublin? Would the arrangement between Stobart and EI allow for this? Between the Daa and EI, there must be stats showing volume of origin of pax from Cork, with the opportunity to make incremental revenue based on offering the transit between Cork and Dublin by air rather than by car, train or bus.

Could Stobart also consider combining such a service with a Dublin departing service, such as Dub-Ncl, thereby also offering Ork pax a Ork-Ncl service via a stop in Dublin on the same aircraft? This would then split the capacity between point to point, an indirect route and interconnecting traffic.

If such a Ork-Dub service was 3 times a day on an ATR it could equate to similar traffic to a direct once a day operation to the States for example.

Short-haul connecting flights are quite prevalent in the States and Norwegian and Ryanair offer such a service in selected Countries in Europe. Perhaps Aer Lingus would consider offering this facility through a Cork-Dublin flight, offering onward connections to their short-haul network in addition to their long haul network? This could indirectly boost Cork services such as Munich which has a limited direct schedule and could benefit from being offered in conjunction with connecting services on results for return flight searches on the airline website.

I have also seen that FR are offering connecting flights in countries like Italy. Would they perhaps be willing to roll out such an offering to allow Ork passengers connect to their Dublin network if a flight was re-established between Ork and Dub, benefitting from any incremental margin from offering such a connecting service?

Perhaps a survey via the airport or Cork Chamber could help gauge demand for such a service, and what premium passengers would consider paying to start/finish their journey at Cork Airport and to connect to Dublin via air?

Any thoughts, comments or opinions would be welcome

brian_dromey 23rd Aug 2018 14:03

Ryanair have announced a new winter destination. Luton. It is reported as being 6 weekly, currently bookable at 5 weekly, Mon, Wed, Thu, Fri, Sun.

FR7680 LTN 1700 ORK 1830 1, 5
FR7681 ORK 1855 LTN 2225 1, 5

FR7680 LTN 1645 ORK 1815 3
FR7681 ORK 1840 LTN 2010 3

FR7680 LTN 1820 ORK 1950 4
FR7681 ORK 2015 LTN 2145 4

FR7680 LTN 1715 ORK 1845 7
FR7681 ORK 1915 LTN 2045 7

Good news for the airport, even if not the most exciting destination. Luton is a bread and butter route that has been missing for quite a while.

mik3bravo 23rd Aug 2018 14:22

Cork - London Southend is a route which I'm somewhat surprised hasn't (yet) come onto the destination boards. With Ryanair's planned new 3 aircraft based at SEN from Spring 2019, maybe they'll run both a Dublin and Cork schedule. Wonder if there is demand for a Cork - London Southend service? Plenty of beautiful places of interest to us UK folk around the Cork region.

840 29th Aug 2018 15:58


Originally Posted by Paul015 (Post 10176078)
Is Gdańsk suspended for the winter, thought it was a year round service, also is Newcastle fully axed or will it be a seasonal service. Such a long standing route it’s a shame to see it go unserved

Gdańsk has just gone on sale for the Winter season. It's very odd that this should happen at end of August.

snn20 29th Aug 2018 18:05

CAA UK stats for July are out (provisional)
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.gmf...a0ec75abf7.png

840 5th Sep 2018 20:31

Ryanair adding Poznan for summer 2019.

That means flights to three Polish destinations, but not Warsaw or Krakow, which you’d think would be the two most viable routes. I wonder will anyone be tempted.

AerRyan 6th Sep 2018 00:21

Shannon covers that market. The polish community care less about travelling as they rather save money so they're more likely to go for the cheapest flight than their Irish equivalent.

840 6th Sep 2018 07:32

I don’t think there’s any great stream of Cork people up to Shannon any more. Because of the motorway link and very regular bus services, Dublin seems to be the second choice now. The same applies in reverse. Only really in North Cork and West Limerick are the two airports really competing these days. That’s only a combined population of 150k.

AerRyan 7th Sep 2018 22:58

Hearing runours of good news on Wednesday, nothing amazing but noteworthy at the least.

brian_dromey 10th Sep 2018 11:08


Originally Posted by AerRyan (Post 10243922)
Hearing runours of good news on Wednesday, nothing amazing but noteworthy at the least.

An additional summer bucket and spade route or two, I guess. Maybe a winter once weekly Geneva?

EI-A330-300 10th Sep 2018 11:21

Perhaps just replacing another bucket and spade route.

840 10th Sep 2018 13:55

Seeing that a similar post went up in the Shannon thread, I wonder if it could be a based Aer Lingus Regional aircraft in Shannon, which would mean no more Ws out of Cork, so a bit of solid if unspectacular growth on UK routes.

840 11th Sep 2018 09:29

A day early, but I guess it’s the news.

Ryanair to fly to Malta twice weekly.

Its not clear is this actually Ryanair or is it one of these occasions that they will be selling tickets in Air Malta.

Air Malta used to operate to Cork a decade or more ago.

Timings do imply that the aircraft is Malta-based

snn20 11th Sep 2018 13:14


Originally Posted by 840 (Post 10246357)
A day early, but I guess it’s the news.

Ryanair to fly to Malta twice weekly.

Its not clear is this actually Ryanair or is it one of these occasions that they will be selling tickets in Air Malta.

Air Malta used to operate to Cork a decade or more ago.

Timings do imply that the aircraft is Malta-based

Tomorrow is to do with EI, And it is Ryanair

harriewillem 11th Sep 2018 21:53

Maybe a Cityjet unit obh Aer Lingus.. not to malta...

MarkD 12th Sep 2018 14:07


Originally Posted by 840 (Post 10242539)
I don’t think there’s any great stream of Cork people up to Shannon any more. Because of the motorway link and very regular bus services, Dublin seems to be the second choice now. The same applies in reverse. Only really in North Cork and West Limerick are the two airports really competing these days. That’s only a combined population of 150k.

For early flights it's still a haul to get to Dublin in time - even more so if you have to deal with the American formalities. The tunnel has made a huge difference in accessing Shannon but the Buttevant-Charleville situation needs sorting. Unfortunately the powers that be are insisting it be a motorway rather than decent relief roads. I came down from Shannon a few weeks ago - after 15 years in Canada the N20 south of Croom is largely unchanged. We were stuck in Charleville traffic for ages because there was an event in the town square. Ludicrous.

virginblue 13th Sep 2018 11:28

So with tomorrow today being yesterday, what was the news?

snn20 14th Sep 2018 11:49

Cork-Budapest from 4th of April next year operating on Thursdays and Sundays, bookable on FR website.

840 14th Sep 2018 13:14

Seems to be a Cork-based aircraft on a Thursday and a Budapest-based one on an Sunday.

At the press conference, it was also announced that Ryanair will be training 450 pilots through Atlantic Flight Training.

brian_dromey 14th Sep 2018 13:47


Originally Posted by 840 (Post 10249113)
Seems to be a Cork-based aircraft on a Thursday and a Budapest-based one on an Sunday.

At the press conference, it was also announced that Ryanair will be training 450 pilots through Atlantic Flight Training.

The Thursday slot is currently used by BGY, so I wonder what will happen there. BGY isn't yet for sale, so it might not be coming back next year?

2019 is looking like a decent year for the airport with BUD, MLA, LTN all added, PVD will be back as well. There may be some more announcements from EI and EIR, I suppose. On the negative side BGY appears uncertain, but with Volotea to VRN ORK is still connected to the region.

Jack1985 15th Sep 2018 18:15

''The ramp-up of Ryanair operations has not gone unnoticed by Aer Lingus.

The IAG-owned airline is planning to combat Ryanair’s bid for Cork Airport domination by extending its own services in the coming months.

When asked by travel industry figures this week if it was committed to expanding in Cork, Aer Lingus chief executive Stephen Kavanagh was bullish,


We are the largest airline in Cork and we intend to maintain that position, Mr Kavanagh said.
He said Aer Lingus would be making announcements in the coming weeks focusing on expansion in mainly European cities.''

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breaki...on-869126.html

840 15th Sep 2018 19:00

It’s hard to see how Aer Lingus can expand much without committing another based aircraft. And another based aircraft would represent a big expansion.

Ryanair have the big advantage that they can expand capacity by using other bases and then add an extra aircraft, knowing that they can transfer over a lot of the routes that had been operated from those other bases.

Jack1985 15th Sep 2018 19:39

I have to wonder what Stobart's plans are with the 2 E-195's they are pulling out of Southend.

brian_dromey 16th Sep 2018 08:34


Originally Posted by Jack1985 (Post 10250064)
I have to wonder what Stobart's plans are with the 2 E-195's they are pulling out of Southend.

Its odd because some E195 routes continue into the summer. The E195s are relatively high cost aircraft and seem to be relatively troublesome. With their costs, Im not sure they are an ideal aircraft for Cork, but I think they are the right size.

Their apparent unreliability might be slightly skewed as one poster seems to take great joy reporting the smallest delay. I wonder if Stobart might sell their Southend flights through Ryanair - like Air Malta now do, I can't see them offering flights in their own right if the flyBe franchise ends.

Cyrano 16th Sep 2018 09:45


Originally Posted by brian_dromey (Post 10250290)
Its odd because some E195 routes continue into the summer. The E195s are relatively high cost aircraft and seem to be relatively troublesome. With their costs, Im not sure they are an ideal aircraft for Cork, but I think they are the right size.

Their apparent unreliability might be slightly skewed as one poster seems to take great joy reporting the smallest delay. I wonder if Stobart might sell their Southend flights through Ryanair - like Air Malta now do, I can't see them offering flights in their own right if the flyBe franchise ends.

But Air Malta offer flights in their own right - Ryanair is just one of the booking channels. It’s not as though Air Malta has become a Ryanair franchisee or anything. Stobart could well sell their SEN flights through Ryanair (though it’s hardly a material contribution to revenue for Ryanair, so I’m not sure whether they would be interested) but Stobart would still have to be “offering flights in their own right”.

840 16th Sep 2018 17:40

If an E195 was moved to Cork, you’d think it’s biggest use to Stobart would be on MAN followed by BHX. It could create extra capacity and shorter sector times on a couple of business friendly routes where yield might help offset the operating costs. It’s hard to think of which new European routes would suit. AMS or CDG at higher frequency in an E195 would work, but can’t see Aer Lingus going for they are profitable in house and would mean feeding a ln IAG competitor hub.

You’d think BGY shouldn’t be in too much trouble considering the loads and what the yields appear to be (guessing from the fares charged). It is, of course, a significant base with plenty of scope to operate a rotation. However, route supports have run out, so that does reduce profits.

PPRuNeUser0176 16th Sep 2018 20:50

FAO is on sale at new times for 2019 and they have not included the W to SNN in schedules, AGP is partly on sale but current indications are SNN-FAO/AGP may be axed (on sale ex DUB/ORK/BHD). If that is correct thats an extra 7 (6 hour +) rotations.

LX, AF, IB, DY, FR, EI, V7 - daa have really turned the screws on Shannon.


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