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VickersVicount 17th Dec 2018 10:34

EK A380 confirmed and bookable now on GLA-DXB (during runway works April) then initially on one of the two daily until Sept
Big increase in seats to fill esp with EDI now offering ( less than daily) DXB with very competitive cheaper fares....
Im sure theyve done their homework

CabinCrewe 17th Dec 2018 15:05

Slightly curious its only until September.
Not sure many other A380 upgauges have been seasonal /temporary.
Does the back reduction then coincide with EDI going daily?

Breathe 17th Dec 2018 15:34

Does GLA now have an A380 gate?

It would be a bit of a waste of money to spend the money upgrading the gate just for a temporary service. Perhaps EK are using the DXB runway maintenance as an oppurtunity to bed in/test the A380 at GLA?

Still it is welcome news for passengers and plane spotters and GLA in general. :)

Skipness One Foxtrot 17th Dec 2018 16:33

Stand 30 is being modified for A380 ops, this has been planned for a while it seems. As for the return to the B777, that’s likely dependent on how well EDI and GLA work alongside each other. Continental (later United) started off being GLA focussed building to DC10s then opened EDI, split GLA/EDI biased to GLA, then biased to EDI, then GLA dropped to seasonal. There is a comparable structural weakness in the inbound market on the western side now. Only time will tell, I suspect they are keeping their options wide open.

CabinCrewe 18th Dec 2018 12:50

DUS first of the much mooted Loganair Euro embraer ventures. Shame they got hardly any of the slots requested.
Wonder if BRU and CPH were those not successful or still to be announced

Chris_747 20th Dec 2018 20:13

Believe the FlyLolo Christmas charter flights from Glasgow to Tenerife have been cancelled last minute, some not very happy people on social media having to rebook with other airlines

VickersVicount 20th Dec 2018 21:05

FlyLolo... i mean really... why would you?!

awwdabaaby 20th Dec 2018 21:53

The flights have been operated for the past 3-4 years but have NEVER operated so hardly a surprise

Kilpatricknick 1st Jan 2019 18:45

A380
 

Originally Posted by CabinCrewe (Post 10337711)
Slightly curious its only until September.
Not sure many other A380 upgauges have been seasonal /temporary.
Does the back reduction then coincide with EDI going daily?

Talking to a colleague based in GLA's operations team last night specifically re the cost benefits of £8M to accommodate the A380s and he suggested Emirates have pledged an annual upgrade for at least the next three years from at least one of their B777s to the A380 from May - October. The possibility of running it all year round from next year has not been discounted however is said to be unlikely at this stage. Might explain the reasoning's behind the significant investment.

nef 4th Jan 2019 10:16


Originally Posted by CabinCrewe (Post 10338433)
DUS first of the much mooted Loganair Euro embraer ventures. Shame they got hardly any of the slots requested.
Wonder if BRU and CPH were those not successful or still to be announced

If they've missed out on CPH it's probably a blessing in disguise! EDI-CPH is saturated with loco capacity and ultra cheap fares and it would be difficult for LM to compete with that imo. I do believe there may be more to come though......

On another note, I see egpfforum has been down for a few days, anyone know what's up?

CabinCrewe 4th Jan 2019 12:15

Often 'new year' disruptions to webpages are just server subscription issues. I suspect some of these local spotter forums will be exactly in that boat.

tartan 201 4th Jan 2019 14:48


Originally Posted by Kilpatricknick (Post 10349030)
Talking to a colleague based in GLA's operations team last night specifically re the cost benefits of £8M to accommodate the A380s and he suggested Emirates have pledged an annual upgrade for at least the next three years from at least one of their B777s to the A380 from May - October. The possibility of running it all year round from next year has not been discounted however is said to be unlikely at this stage. Might explain the reasoning's behind the significant investment.

Spending £8m in return for a pledge to upgrade one of the daily flights from May to October for three years works out at about £55 for each additional pledged seat. (Each A380 flight having 489 seats, so 135 more than the 354 on a 773; 180 days from 1/5 to (say) 27/10; 135*2*180*3=145,800 additional seats; £8,000,000/145,800 = £54.87). That seems a fairly high cost per additional pledged seat, especially in the context of the 2017 accounts which showed a turnover of c.£122million and 9.895m passengers, so turnover of about £12.30 per passenger.

sdh2903 4th Jan 2019 18:32


Originally Posted by Kilpatricknick (Post 10349030)
Talking to a colleague based in GLA's operations team last night specifically re the cost benefits of £8M to accommodate the A380s and he suggested Emirates have pledged an annual upgrade for at least the next three years from at least one of their B777s to the A380 from May - October. The possibility of running it all year round from next year has not been discounted however is said to be unlikely at this stage. Might explain the reasoning's behind the significant investment.

Maybe you could remind your colleague that there are plenty of other airlines at GLA who are making do with rusting dilapidated airbridges on the rest of the stands, that is when they are working. Fixed gpu's that are constantly tripping. Security doors hanging off and not closing. 8m quid could have gone a long way to tidying up and improving things for everyone rather than for 1 airline who *might* put in an a380. Typical 1 eyed-ness from the gla management.

Mister Geezer 5th Jan 2019 15:20

I suspect the airport view the 8 million to be an investment in positive P R and a hope for greater interest in the airport and not only just money spent on a new asset, that will generally only benefit one airline. I am sure AGS will be acutely aware that such a milestone is not going to be replicated by their peers over at EDI any time soon, which probably only increases their drive to get this aircraft operating soon. Whether you're a 380 fan or not, the machine does turn heads, get people talking and generate interest and all at a time that is rather lacklustre for GLA.

This is a high stakes situation for AGS as EK pax throughput at GLA has dipped around 15% for the first two months after EDI started. If demand doesn't exceed 'pre-EDI' numbers with the A380 then it does raise the question if there is a need for the aircraft for the time being at least?

If for any reason the A380 is not the success that it is hoped to be, then it will be a far more painful result for AGS than it will be for EK.

CabinCrewe 5th Jan 2019 15:56

I cant believe for a minute (when we were told by some 'commentators' the GLA service was full of EDI catchment pax) that there wasnt likely to be a decent drop in GLA figured when EDI EK was launched. To be only 15% reduction (noting other UK route drops incl MAN also) I would have thought this is not particularly unusual or unexpected unless rate increases month on month significantly. The majority of travellers IMO will not give two hoots if its an A380 or not, and further more will not change their very cost sensitive plans if there is (as there currently is) significant discounts on other services at EDI. Unless the EK booking system changes (outwith launch publicity) there is no fanfare made during booking about the aircraft type and is actually quite subtle (except additional later info when booking eg F )

awwdabaaby 7th Jan 2019 11:29

TUI will base 2x737 Max 8 at the airport from May 2019

DOUGALD 19th Jan 2019 13:26

Just heard that Thomas Cook are to base just one a321 for winter 2019.

Jet2_GLA 24th Jan 2019 13:11


Originally Posted by DOUGALD (Post 10364956)
Just heard that Thomas Cook are to base just one a321 for winter 2019.

really? Where is this?

CabinCrewe 24th Jan 2019 13:23


Originally Posted by Jet2_GLA (Post 10369421)


really? Where is this?

Most UK TCX winter bases reducing significantly. The value of the TS Canadian deal far outweighs risk of mid winter UK bookings.
Dont think there is any drama here.

OltonPete 24th Jan 2019 18:47

Thomas Cook winter 2019/20
 

Originally Posted by Jet2_GLA (Post 10369421)


really? Where is this?

The Thomas Cook timetable although inaccurate for the current flights it is usually reliable and it shows GLA next winter 7 flights a week to 4 destinations (ACE, FUE, LPA & TFS) but I only checked a week in November 19 and a week in Feb 20. Fear not it is across the board with EMA just one aircraft and BHX back to 2 based. Even Manchester short-haul appears only to be 5 based but I have no idea if it is up or down. However a long time to go so there could be changes.

Pete


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