Do Ryanair do any W sectors now.
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Originally Posted by yeo valley
(Post 10553933)
Do Ryanair do any W sectors now.
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Originally Posted by LBIA
(Post 10553966)
Yeap LBA based aircraft does LBA-IBZ-MPL-IBZ-LBA every Thursday and Sunday afternoon this summer.
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Having gone through FR's timetable for December for all TFS-UK flights, there will be 54 flights per week, split as 40 operated by aircraft based in the UK and 14 by aircraft based in TFS. They fly to 13 UK destinations from TFS;
5 Airports are operated solely by UK based aircraft (BOH/BRS/EDI/LBA/LTN) 6 Airports are operated by a mix of UK and TFS based aircraft (BHX/BFS/EMA/PIK/MAN/STN/) 2 Airports are operated solely by TFS based aircraft (CWL/NCL) The Airports that have mixed based aircraft flying the route only have 1 or 2 flights per week from the TFS base. For example BHX has 4 flights per week, 3 by BHX aircraft and 1 by TFS. If there's no slack in the BHX based aircraft schedule, BHX could lose 1 flight per week, or another flight to make way for the TFS flight. CWL (2 pw) and NCL (3 pw) stand to lose their flights, although various articles state that no routes will be lost. I can't see how they can operate W patterns on TFS without taxiing crews around and putting them up in hotels, which I can't imagine FR paying for! Would a DUB-CWL-TFS-CWL-DUB be within crew hours? Could a random routing using 2 aircraft work; Aircraft 1) DUB-CWL-TFS-DUB & Aircraft 2) DUB-TFS-CWL-DUB, also giving CWL a DUB flight a few times a week. |
BHX-TFS
Originally Posted by caaardiff
(Post 10554016)
Having gone through FR's timetable for December for all TFS-UK flights, there will be 54 flights per week, split as 40 operated by aircraft based in the UK and 14 by aircraft based in TFS. They fly to 13 UK destinations from TFS;
5 Airports are operated solely by UK based aircraft (BOH/BRS/EDI/LBA/LTN) 6 Airports are operated by a mix of UK and TFS based aircraft (BHX/BFS/EMA/PIK/MAN/STN/) 2 Airports are operated solely by TFS based aircraft (CWL/NCL) The Airports that have mixed based aircraft flying the route only have 1 or 2 flights per week from the TFS base. For example BHX has 4 flights per week, 3 by BHX aircraft and 1 by TFS. If there's no slack in the BHX based aircraft schedule, BHX could lose 1 flight per week, or another flight to make way for the TFS flight. CWL (2 pw) and NCL (3 pw) stand to lose their flights, although various articles state that no routes will be lost. I can't see how they can operate W patterns on TFS without taxiing crews around and putting them up in hotels, which I can't imagine FR paying for! Would a DUB-CWL-TFS-CWL-DUB be within crew hours? Could a random routing using 2 aircraft work; Aircraft 1) DUB-CWL-TFS-DUB & Aircraft 2) DUB-TFS-CWL-DUB, also giving CWL a DUB flight a few times a week. I assume there is a 90 day consultation period for the base closures, which then actually allow for flights still to be sold in the short-term even if some are unlikely to operate such as CWL and NCL - TFS (unless of course they open new UK bases). Although I am not sure what the percentage rate is of over-turning a decision during the 90-day consultation period but I bet it is low. Pete |
I think you forgot LPL, Caaardiff. |
Originally Posted by eye2eye5
(Post 10554097)
I think you forgot LPL, Caaardiff. |
NEWCASTLE will have the same problem if/when the Gerona base closes
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Originally Posted by eu01
(Post 10553988)
Rather unlikely next summer. British based aircraft won't be able to serve intra-EU flights while W-pattern LBA-IBZ-UK(any)-IBZ-LBA would be too long,
It can then return IBZ LBA. Only issue would be intra-UK routes (STN - EDI for instance) if the appropriate freedoms were not approved. I think the only UK registered aircraft is G-RUKA and that potentially couldn't operate the IBZ MPL IBZ or any other intra EU routes if no agreements were in place post Brexit. That's my understanding anyway but happy to be corrected if others know different! |
Originally Posted by commit aviation
(Post 10554582)
Depends surely on the registration of the aircraft. Any registered within the EU can operate into the UK subject to the appropriate agreements being in place. So for example an EI registered Ryanair aircraft could operate LBA - IBZ and then still be perfectly ok to operate IBZ MPL IBZ as Ireland is still within the EU.
It can then return IBZ LBA. Only issue would be intra-UK routes (STN - EDI for instance) if the appropriate freedoms were not approved. I think the only UK registered aircraft is G-RUKA and that potentially couldn't operate the IBZ MPL IBZ or any other intra EU routes if no agreements were in place post Brexit. That's my understanding anyway but happy to be corrected if others know different! |
Commit - your understanding is exactly right. As EI- registered aircraft, Ryanair would have rights to continue flying as it does today. The only constraints would be on use of an EI- registered aircraft on UK>non EU services or use of the G-reg aircraft on intra-EU services assuming in both cases that no Brexit deal is reached.
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The EU has already announced its "no-deal" position, which will essentially allow the current regime to continue for a limited period. It's one of a series of "mini-deals" that certain politicians deny exist.
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Originally Posted by LBIA
(Post 10553966)
Yeap LBA based aircraft dose LBA-IBZ-MPL-IBZ-LBA ever Thursday and Sunday afternoon this summer.
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Originally Posted by LGS6753
(Post 10555075)
The EU has already announced its "no-deal" position, which will essentially allow the current regime to continue for a limited period. It's one of a series of "mini-deals" that certain politicians deny exist.
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When will spring 2020 be put on sale in full ? I can see a number of routes that are on sale only up to late October 2019 - amd wondering whether these are going to end later this year, or if they will resume at the start of April next year...
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Originally Posted by davidjohnson6
(Post 10556656)
When will spring 2020 be put on sale in full ? I can see a number of routes that are on sale only up to late October 2019 - amd wondering whether these are going to end later this year, or if they will resume at the start of April next year...
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TFS-NCL & TFS-CWL have been taken off sale, with the last flights on 5th Jan & 6th Jan respectively.
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Originally Posted by caaardiff
(Post 10557725)
TFS-NCL & TFS-CWL have been taken off sale, with the last flights on 5th Jan & 6th Jan respectively.
Beauvais Belfast Bergamo Cologne Copenhagen Eindhoven Knock Liverpool Milan-Malpensa Porto Santander Santiago-Comp. Treviso Valencia Vitoria and Wroclaw (announced few months ago) |
From LPA few routes have been taken off sales such as
Bologna Charleroi Eindhoven Glasgow-Prestwick Hamburg Krakow Leeds-LBA Liverpool Oslo-Torp Santander Stockholm-Skvasta Treviso I am not sure for 3 routes LBA LPL and PIK ! routes were mentionned as year around but disappeared after October 2019 ! so if someone knows ! I do apologize in adavance if it's a mistake ! |
I guess this is related to the TFS base closure so there's an associated rejig of schedules
I'm sure i read TFS base is closing |
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