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MARKEYD 23rd Aug 2019 13:35

Sorry but I wouldn’t get to alarmed by the results

1 ) Which Magazine that had 4000 grumbly old “ Victor Meldrews “ read and comment on

2 ) That 4000 readers also read the Daily Mail and hate anything English

3 ) Average age 78

sixchannel 23rd Aug 2019 13:40


Originally Posted by MARKEYD (Post 10552465)
Sorry but I wouldn’t get to alarmed by the results

1 ) Which Magazine that had 4000 grumbly old “ Victor Meldrews “ read and comment on

2 ) That 4000 readers also read the Daily Mail and hate anything English

3 ) Average age 78

Leary wouldnt care anyway. Only the bottom line interests him.

paully 23rd Aug 2019 18:05

Being slated by Which?, O`Leary would regard as little more than free publicity..

G-FORZ 23rd Aug 2019 18:37

They provide a reliable regular bus service, not a luxury coach once a week - which and its readers need to get real.

racedo 23rd Aug 2019 18:56


Originally Posted by airsound (Post 10552450)
Huffpost says

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/ent...yBrief23082019

Or go directly to Which if you're a subscriber.

airsound

Which? has in excess of 1.5 million members and 4000 replied.

It hasn't got any credibility in its surveys and hasn't had for decades and uses press releases as yet another method of adding on subscribers. Unlike other surveys there is no proof of a single person answering the survey 1.) they have ever flown Ryanair 2.) involved in contacting Ryanair customer services.

Yet UK media quote them as Gospel.

Lon12 23rd Aug 2019 21:13

Ryanair confirms that will close 4 bases in Spain next January.

https://www.brecorder.com/2019/08/24...xt-year-union/

FlyboyUK 24th Aug 2019 07:29

One can’t help but wonder how quickly will those airports become new bases for other airlines in the group that are on a lower cost base?

daz211 24th Aug 2019 12:19

Personally I think it’s a mix of the Jet2 effect and the Max aircraft issues.

2Para 24th Aug 2019 14:25


Originally Posted by FlyboyUK (Post 10552992)
One can’t help but wonder how quickly will those airports become new bases for other airlines in the group that are on a lower cost base?

lower lower cost than ryanair?

inOban 24th Aug 2019 14:46

I suspect that now their staff are on proper contracts and therefore more expensive than casual labour, that their cost base is much the same as their competitors. How does Wizz pay its staff?

racedo 24th Aug 2019 16:43


Originally Posted by daz211 (Post 10553160)
Personally I think it’s a mix of the Jet2 effect and the Max aircraft issues.

Nope

More of a contant willingness to review what they are doing, what is working, what is not, what needs to change quickly and slowly and doing it. No resting on Laurels but getting better all the time and not being wedded to history.

In addition there are 4 people seeking MOL's job in 2022.

ssflyer 24th Aug 2019 16:59


Originally Posted by daz211 (Post 10553160)
Personally I think it’s a mix of the Jet2 effect and the Max aircraft issues.

Definitely
FR was my only real LCC choice for years out of BHX/EMA.
Maybe 30+ flights but now I have now stopped using them completely.
Jet2 beats them into a cocked hat.Price,their own,not Agency staff, aircraft, timings -the lot
SSF

daz211 24th Aug 2019 17:53


Originally Posted by racedo (Post 10553311)
Nope

More of a contant willingness to review what they are doing, what is working, what is not, what needs to change quickly and slowly and doing it. No resting on Laurels but getting better all the time and not being wedded to history.

In addition there are 4 people seeking MOL's job in 2022.

Thats my point, Jet2 have given people a choice and they are all over the canaries, hence making Ryanair review what is not working “for them” the Jet2 effect.

PDXCWL45 24th Aug 2019 18:56


Originally Posted by daz211 (Post 10553346)


Thats my point, Jet2 have given people a choice and they are all over the canaries, hence making Ryanair review what is not working “for them” the Jet2 effect.

except that the UK isn't Ryanairs only market they fly from all over western Europe to the canaries.

daz211 24th Aug 2019 19:24

I’m aware of the route network, however the UK holiday market especially in the south East is / was massive to Ryanair, in the past few years Jet2 has stomped all over Ryanair on almost all holiday routes and it doesn’t look like they have any intention of slowing down anytime soon.

mik3bravo 24th Aug 2019 19:40


Originally Posted by paully (Post 10552651)
Being slated by Which?, O`Leary would regard as little more than free publicity..

Best free advertising! Profit is king.

PDXCWL45 24th Aug 2019 19:58


Originally Posted by daz211 (Post 10553397)
I’m aware of the route network, however the UK holiday market especially in the south East is / was massive to Ryanair, in the past few years Jet2 has stomped all over Ryanair on almost all holiday routes and it doesn’t look like they have any intention of slowing down anytime soon.

But the difference is though that Jet2 focus more on the package side of the business now while Ryanair are more flight only. Jet2 seems to be effecting TUI and TCX more than Ryanair. Has there been any big cuts to the holiday market's from Ryanair from the South east?

racedo 25th Aug 2019 11:42


Originally Posted by daz211 (Post 10553346)
Thats my point, Jet2 have given people a choice and they are all over the canaries, hence making Ryanair review what is not working “for them” the Jet2 effect.

Not in the slightest. Jet2 after a different market segment and it is a UK centric brand that people know zero about in Europe.

In 2018 Jet2 fly 12 million people, in Juy 2019 Ryanair flew 14.8 million.

caaardiff 25th Aug 2019 14:08


Originally Posted by daz211 (Post 10553397)
I’m aware of the route network, however the UK holiday market especially in the south East is / was massive to Ryanair, in the past few years Jet2 has stomped all over Ryanair on almost all holiday routes and it doesn’t look like they have any intention of slowing down anytime soon.

What routes does FR operate with aircraft based in the Canaries to the UK where there's an overlap with Jet2. I would've thought any Canaries routes from STN/LTN would be operated by aircraft based in the UK, which is then irrelevant to the closure of the Canaries bases.

NorthEasterner 25th Aug 2019 15:01


Originally Posted by caaardiff (Post 10553841)
What routes does FR operate with aircraft based in the Canaries to the UK where there's an overlap with Jet2. I would've thought any Canaries routes from STN/LTN would be operated by aircraft based in the UK, which is then irrelevant to the closure of the Canaries bases.

Newcastle is one of them and no doubt some other regional UK airports such as Edinburgh, Manchester, Birmingham, East Midlands etc. Any base closure for destination from NCL is likely to have the route dropped unless a base is opened or an aircraft on a W sector.


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