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racedo 9th Jun 2019 13:55


Originally Posted by davidjohnson6 (Post 10489745)
From the article, it sounds like Ryanair has made a significant concession to the Maltese Govt by giving them a golden share. It's not clear from the article what the Maltese Govt has given to Ryanair in return...

Malta Govt know that airline cannot survive on its own so left with 3 options.

Sell to highest bidder.......... few bidders

Close and let free market offer flights

Work wit Airline bringing most people to the Island and happy to continue expanding

Small picture is small airliebe some employees, big picture is the Islands tourism industry providing jobs. Better the bigger picture.

inOban 9th Jun 2019 15:36

Weren't Ryanair already selling Air Malta tickets on their website?

DC3 Dave 9th Jun 2019 15:46

Some more detail:

https://www.timesofmalta.com/article...n-malta.712313

CCFAIRPORT 13th Jun 2019 08:47

4 NEW ROUTES FROM FRANCE

Bordeaux to Agadir 2pw
Bordeaux to Thessaloniki 2pw
Marseille to Chania 2pw
Marseille to Dublin 3pw

All begins April 2020

TSR2 15th Jun 2019 10:51

Ryanair have 'offered' to announce a large order for a Boeing 737MAX variant at the Paris Air Show subject to 'advantageous' price discounts.

racedo 15th Jun 2019 13:13


Originally Posted by TSR2 (Post 10494307)
Ryanair have 'offered' to announce a large order for a Boeing 737MAX variant at the Paris Air Show subject to 'advantageous' price discounts.

Business is business.

stewyb 15th Jun 2019 21:51


Originally Posted by racedo (Post 10494373)
Business is business.

A fantastic time for any airline to negotiate a cracking deal with Boeing for the MAX/variants. We all know that it will be fixed and safe to fly at some point, yet reduced purchase costs will be the order of the day as Boeing will want a return to brand credibility and future viability!!

davidjohnson6 15th Jun 2019 22:09

October 2001 all over again ?

alm1 15th Jun 2019 22:38


Originally Posted by stewyb (Post 10494644)
A fantastic time for any airline to negotiate a cracking deal with Boeing for the MAX/variants. We all know that it will be fixed and safe to fly at some point, yet reduced purchase costs will be the order of the day as Boeing will want a return to brand credibility and future viability!!

No. Max is a Frankenstein of a plane with questionable certification process and any future crash (and those do happen) may cost airlines operating the type a lot more than the savings. And imagine if a Ryanair Max crashed for some reason (statistically this may happen one day as they cannot operate 500 planes for tens of years without any)

racedo 15th Jun 2019 23:17


Originally Posted by davidjohnson6 (Post 10494660)
October 2001 all over again ?

Yup

Max 200 list price is $125 million..... figure Ryanair will get them for €30-35 million if that.


racedo 15th Jun 2019 23:28


Originally Posted by alm1 (Post 10494670)
No. Max is a Frankenstein of a plane with questionable certification process and any future crash (and those do happen) may cost airlines operating the type a lot more than the savings. And imagine if a Ryanair Max crashed for some reason (statistically this may happen one day as they cannot operate 500 planes for tens of years without any)

Oh it will be certified beyond belief and doubt they will be flying for Ryanair before next summer such will the going over occur.

There will be huge amounts of SIM time for anybody flying it.

SARF 16th Jun 2019 19:27

Yup. 900 hours in the Sim learning how to reprogram the flight management systems in less than 90 seconds

brian_dromey 17th Jun 2019 08:18

There is speculation that the -10MAX does not have the MCAS system, as the additional length moves the CoG backwards, so it flies like the NG's. If the -10MAX is certified as an NG variant then it could fly while the -8 and -9 are grounded. There are a lot of if's and buts there - if Ryanair do order, my guess is it would be the 737-10 variant and the MAX branding would be dropped, as Mr. Trump suggested.

Lon12 17th Jun 2019 09:00


Originally Posted by brian_dromey (Post 10495521)
There is speculation that the -10MAX does not have the MCAS system, as the additional length moves the CoG backwards, so it flies like the NG's. If the -10MAX is certified as an NG variant then it could fly while the -8 and -9 are grounded. There are a lot of if's and buts there - if Ryanair do order, my guess is it would be the 737-10 variant and the MAX branding would be dropped, as Mr. Trump suggested.


what? MAX-10 for Ryanair???

I think is too big for FR. Up to 236 seats. Bigger than a 321.

Rwy in Sight 17th Jun 2019 09:28

Why put so many seats initially?

PDXCWL45 17th Jun 2019 09:31


Originally Posted by Lon12 (Post 10495551)



what? MAX-10 for Ryanair???

I think is too big for FR. Up to 236 seats. Bigger than a 321.

How would it be too big? Both Wizz and Easyjet both operate similar capacity aircraft and seem to be doing ok. I'm sure Ryanair would be fine operating a similar sized aircraft. Lauda already does.

GOJET1 17th Jun 2019 09:47

The A321neo is typically 235-239 seats with LCCs, e.g. Wizz 239, Cebu 236, easyJet 235, so about the same as the MAX-10, although Airbus says the A321neo can technically hold up to 244. I can't post the URL as I am too new, but search on Airbus' website for its A321neo.It would be interesting to see the unit costs of the MAX-10 versus both Ryanair's existing 738s and its coming 197-seat MAX-200s.

racedo 17th Jun 2019 10:59


Originally Posted by Lon12 (Post 10495551)

what? MAX-10 for Ryanair???

I think is too big for FR. Up to 236 seats. Bigger than a 321.

On some of the bigger routes they will easily sell out the -10 at peak time, 1 extra crew member and 25% more seats. Sun routes will not be an issue

Have flown W6 and U2 in the 321 and prices are way down from where they were previously on some routes

CCFAIRPORT 5th Jul 2019 08:52

NEW ROUTE

Bristol to Grenoble

1pw (Sat)

begins 11 JAN 2020 till 28 MAR 2020

racedo 5th Jul 2019 12:25


Originally Posted by CCFAIRPORT (Post 10510150)
NEW ROUTE

Bristol to Grenoble

1pw (Sat)

begins 11 JAN 2020 till 28 MAR 2020

Ski route..


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