ryanair will open a new base at Paris-Beauvais with 2 based A/C and one new route to paphos

Closure from the end of october of Cork and Shannon bases ?(winter season only)

https://flyinginireland.com/2020/10/...jDOtslGIyvG-PY

Evidently moving toward ordering up to 200 MAX a/c.

Master plan involves calling the aircraft something else to hide the fact from its panicking boarding passengers.

Correct...Evidently moving toward ordering up to 200 of them there planes.

Sure Boeing would rather get people to take the cancelled frames from other airlines/leasors. With RYR having a bespoke model that is not going to happen. More of a flag waving exercise I think unless Boeing give them away in leau of compensation.

Possible order valued at more than Fifteen Billion Euro so quite a large flag one might think then.

The B737-800s were bought at a steal post 9-11 as Ryanair were in a good place to take advantage of them. If the MAX is a game changer for the group, Boeing will likely give them an amazing deal. History can repeat itself.

Just the latest example of Ryanair putting its own interests ahead of the health of the public as it loses an Irish court case to get restrictions lifted.

https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/...trictions.html

Ryanair management 1st duty is to the owners of the airline. All the Govt controls have not stopped the virus from spreading so questioning if they are any use at all. They would be failing to do their job is they did not question the restrictions.

Willie Walsh did the same in 2010 when he had BA fly jets transatlantic when UK Giovt was claiming ash from Icelandic volcano would force all aircraft engines to fail and aircraft fall out of the sky. BA had jets in the air that was made clear they would not be returning to the US. UK Govt threat was they would not be allowed to land, Govt minister folded on it when asked does a number of BA aircraft with passengers on board refused persmission to land and crashing look good on TV.

In Ireland we never invested in our health system and that's why we were not prepared and as a consequence we don't have any clear plan and we don't even have a transparent decision making process. Most of our Covid-19 deaths have been in nursing homes which is an absolute disgrace. Still more than six months later we have ineffective testing and very haphazard follow up. With the help of our Government our economy is in self destruct mode. but it will be someone else's mess to clean up. We are shut for business. Nothing wrong with someone like Ryanair questioning it. Its a free country and we need connectivity. Our border has been effectively shut for six months yet our incidence rate is three times higher than that of Germany.

I suppose there is a failure of logic with the borders. It is true to say that the virus was imported from abroad and that then spread like wildfire. It seems that the acts of travel, gathering and socialising that effects the incidence and prevalence. Essentially humans living a normal life, working, communicating and seeking social interaction with other humans is the vector for this virus to spread.

the time to close the borders was in March, once it was it it was too late. Now the Irish government seems to be trying to eradicate the virus, which isn't going so well either.

There are any indications yet from Ryanair on the number of based A/C and routes/frequencies from their MAN & LPL bases for the Winter?
I was particularly thinking of December/January...

Bearing in mind the potential for a winter lockdown, as unpalatable as that is, I think pretty much nobody has any idea. There are probably 3 scenario's normality / limited lockdown with green countrys allowed / full lockdown.

Hopefully it is somewhere between 1 and 2 but 3 is a 30% probability as well.

Any plans I am making are now relying on day or two before going booking.

Toulouse will be closed for winter ! Confirmed for Cork as well

Ryanair will get the Max at an absolute steal just like they did with the post 911 order.

He is a smart cookie.

From Travel Mole:

https://www.travelmole.com/news_feat...ews_id=2044690

Further winter reductions.

Be assured that wherever competition or more specifically Aer Lingus operate, so too will Ryanair. The London route to Stansted will still operate I'd imagine...

Wonder why UK airports are not the above list?

Keep sweat with UK in case some cheap loans come on offer again?

On the other hand the UK is leaving the EU soon. Lots of threats from MOL in the past with no action taken despite the bluster or is he just waiting to make a point? I seem to remember him saying he would pull aircraft out of the UK and move them to Europe if we dared to vote to leave yet the fleet cuts have come from Europe.

If you live in France / Benelux / Germany etc and fear risk of exposure to C-19 whilst flying aboard an airliner, you have an easy alternative. Drive to a Southern European resort in your own car maintaining your own family bubble and avoiding any possibility of ending up in a tiresome paperchase for future travel vouchers or refunds. But the UK market is a quite different proposition: this is an island nation. For most, you either fly to the Med resorts or don't bother travelling. Taking a car via Eurotunnel or a ferry is an option, but an expensive and physically demanding one. Simply put, the market for short-haul flying is much more resilient in the UK. MO'L is well aware of the allure of a captive market. Never underestimate the effect of a relatively expensive sea-crossing on alternative consumer choices.

Why have Ryanair stopped the option of requesting a voucher when a flight is cancelled?
I had 2 e mails off them this morning to confirm my flights from CCF>MAN have been cancelled on 02/11 & 15/01/21 but the options on the e mail were only a flight change (not a viable option as flights don't re-start again until April 2021) or a refund. So I opted for a refund but would happily take a flight voucher as I fly with Ryanair to France, Germany & Spain various times per year.

Why would anyone want a voucher when a refund gives people the option to still rebook or not.

Refund!
 

Applied for one thrice but still no joy and the flight was canx in march..

Because I do not want to re-book on this particular route from April onwards. Flights to and from CCF to MAN are not operating now until April 2021.
The voucher gives me more flexibility to book up when I want, whilst also changing the origin and as in the past, I may even manage to get 2 return flights out of the total value of the voucher.

Why is this difficult :ugh:

If you want a refund out of FR for a previously cancelled flight and an existing request has not been actioned, you should consider the chargeback route on your payment card. I have found that phoning FR and asking politely if you, the passenger, need to do a chargeback to secure the refund, somehow leads to the refund being actioned promptly

Yes, it does work, I can endorse that suggestion.

It is a gamble because if this lasts 5 years then few airlines will be in existence.

On the other hand Boeing will be quite happy as they will set off some of the $$$ they owe Ryanair against the purchase price and US Govt as always will be funding the export sale.

A 200 plane order is basically one of their plants just servicing that order for close to 2 years, it won't be like that in practice as over a longer term but Boeing happy to take that order to the bank.

FR appear to have closed ticket sales on all routes from Armenia

Not only Armenia but also all flights to Georgia and Lebanon seem to be cancelled.

The very real risk of being shot down would do that.

Got my refund request confirmed and actioned within a week :ok:. Flight departure time changed by over 3 hours, but since my destination is a red zone now opted for the refund. Second time I cancelled the same trip now after March .

Ryanair aquire 777 for Cargo flights from Pakistan to China, well I suppose it's a revenue stream!

Try Rayyan Air of Pakistan. Last operated 2015 and it was a freight operator.

Raised an eyebrow with me https://www.pakistantoday.com.pk/202...cargo-flights/

Wondering if Ostrava in the Czech Rep has been dropped completely from Ryanair's network...

Ryanair departure from UK Airports
28th October

Stansted = 46

Manchester = 9

Bristol = 5

Birmingham = 4

Liverpool = 3

Luton = 3

Gatwick = 3

East Midlands = 3

Edinburgh = 3

Bournemouth = 2

Prestwick = 2

Belfast = 1

Newcastle = 1

Southend = 1

Glasgow = 1

Possibly reported earlier, but this news is due to the Irish government's latest Covid crackdown:

https://www.routesonline.com/news/29...onal-airports/