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Cafe john 23rd Sep 2019 17:52


Originally Posted by gnarlberg (Post 10577477)
never forget that those people lost their job ! There is a PSYCHOLOGICAL reason CAA grounds the AOC. Just think of 58 Year old Captain who knows he might not get a new job. With this pressure he shouldn't operate an A/C

One of whom was probably half way through flying back from Orlando last night when the news came in.......

Storerik 23rd Sep 2019 18:59

Scandi flies again
 
Ving just announced that TCAS will resume flights tomorrow tuesday.
Since I'm newbie I'm not allowed to post URLs but my source is: ving.se/aktuellt

Mr Angry from Purley 23rd Sep 2019 19:11

Thoughts go out to all TC Crew and Staff.
Was at Laker when I went through my first redundancy. Now XX years later and after more mergers and collapses than I've had hot dinners i'm on Airline 10 (i think)
Heard the Laker collapse on the radio, aircraft in the air etc. I've often felt I was cursed when it came to Airlines. Never worked for TC but did work for Airtours / My Travel - enough said!
One thing to mention is every time I came out a better person - all TC staff please hang onto that thought.

OldBoris 23rd Sep 2019 19:14

Technical question:
Will an airline “slot into” the vacant flight places that Thomas Cook has left?

(PS Golly some of those flight prices have Er... skyrocketed.....)

Baslo 23rd Sep 2019 19:26

Apparently Thomas Cook Scandinavia is flying again tomorrow. Good news if they have been sold!

In danish www.spies.dk/aktuelt

Signalman 23rd Sep 2019 19:39

If an aircraft is leased, I assume it does not belong to the company that operates it. As such if the operating company goes into administration, do the airports have the right to impound the aircraft (for none payment of fees), as effectively it belongs to the leasing company not the company that has gone into administration (and probably also ows the leasing company money a well.). The leasing company will probably want to lease it to someone else as quickly as possible.

SWBKCB 23rd Sep 2019 19:52

My understanding is that the debt stays with the a/c - certainly heard of a/c being held (or the threat of) after several changes of owners/registrations.

Signalman 23rd Sep 2019 20:00

Wow, if this is the case, the leasing companies could have some very large bills to pay before they get their aircraft back, I hope they have insurance against company administration.

Suzeman 23rd Sep 2019 20:07

A rather poignant tribute here


Good luck to all for the future

Superpilot 23rd Sep 2019 20:09

SmartLynx pilots were signing fuel receipts billed to Thomas Cook not SmartLynx and I believe EU261 was TCX's to take care of too.

Captain_Caveman 23rd Sep 2019 20:21

Thomas Cook Scandinavia is to carry on business... just been announced on Swedish TV

compton3bravo 23rd Sep 2019 20:29

Regarding aircraft being held that is why the announcement of TCX going under was not made until all aircraft were on their way back to the UK so that the aircraft would not be impounded abroad.

LiamNCL 23rd Sep 2019 20:41


Originally Posted by Suzeman (Post 10577610)
A rather poignant tribute here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEQs5EFT0dg

Good luck to all for the future

Farewell indeed , What a fantastic company it was to holiday with. So many flights , so many holidays so many memorys made flying from the local thanks to Thomas Cook.

nowhereasfiled 23rd Sep 2019 20:51

Repatriation effort isn’t off to the best of starts, the Atlas 744 operating MAN MCO is making itself dizzy just off the Irish coast.

nowhereasfiled 23rd Sep 2019 20:53


Originally Posted by Suzeman (Post 10577610)
A rather poignant tribute here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEQs5EFT0dg

Good luck to all for the future

A very emotional tribute. Truly feels like part of the country has gone, not a single person in the U.K. didn’t know who Thomas Cook were, will miss the high street stores, will miss seeing the aircraft, will miss seeing the cheesy TV ads.

sixchannel 23rd Sep 2019 21:00


Originally Posted by nowhereasfiled (Post 10577652)
Repatriation effort isn’t off to the best of starts, the Atlas 744 operating MAN MCO is making itself dizzy just off the Irish coast.

Descending towards west Ireland coast. Shannon diversion?

newfoundglory 23rd Sep 2019 21:04

What has shocked me is some of the news articles i have read today, including claims that Thomas Cook had to sell 3 million holidays per year just to service the interest on its £1.7bn debts. I have no idea whether that is true or not. And of course not forgetting the 500+ high street shops.

I know nothing about running a business, but this seemed like an impossible problem.

DDDriver 23rd Sep 2019 21:04


Originally Posted by sixchannel (Post 10577661)
Descending towards west Ireland coast. Shannon diversion?

Possibly. Seems like a highly dynamic situation, perhaps an airframe on the right side of the pond has become available to do this run? Divert to Shannon/Dublin, wait to be reassigned elsewhere.

Or obviously something as mundane as a technical issue.

JonnyH 23rd Sep 2019 21:06

Will OY-VKF be leaving JFK in the foreseeable? It seems to be TCX Scandinavia, who are still trading according to another post, so will this be a case of the aircraft not being impounded?

sixchannel 23rd Sep 2019 21:11


Originally Posted by DDDriver (Post 10577667)


Possibly. Seems like a highly dynamic situation, perhaps an airframe on the right side of the pond has become available to do this run? Divert to Shannon/Dublin, wait to be reassigned elsewhere.

Or obviously something as mundane as a technical issue.

Did a couple of big circuits out in the Atlantic before turning back on reciprocal. So my money's on Tech and into Shannon.
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