The same charter operator is offering these at Norwich.
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EGPO full air ambulance reasons for moving can be found in the media. They supposedly have offices and training facilities at different bases and want them all in the same place. At DTVA they have part of an old hangar and a large portacabin, we know there is room to build all they want but perhaps there is a cheaper option. Urlay Nook is the remains of a chrome works which is mainly concrete pads where the plant and warehouses were and an office block of futuristic design. The ground is probably seriously contaminated with nasty chemicals, so I wonder if they have considered that. Obviously no good for housing.
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From an Ultralight operator up the roads Facebook page:
For those affected by the closure of Durham Aerosports, we'd like to offer you 10% off your training here at Eshott. |
EGPO: there would have to be a Letter of Agreement between the air amb and DTVA ATC that specifies what prior communication has to be made before a helicopter can take off. I imagine the air amb ops staff would have a direct line to ATC and as soon as they get a call-out they would hit that button at the same time as the helicopter crew were being given the incident details.
There might be scope - if the helipad location, orientation and surrounding obstacles allow - for some sort of emergency provision that, in the event of inability to contact ATC in time, permits the heli to get airborne on a specified south-easterly heading, perhaps with a height restriction, without clearance. But there won't be any arrangement that contains the remotest possibility that a heli might appear right next to the final approach in front of traffic on a c.1.5nm final (descending through about 500ft). |
Originally Posted by highwideandugly
(Post 9994485)
If they all operate!! Web site is awful to book on!!
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I'm willing to bet the caravan site is no less secure than any other, it's just typical of DTVAs luck that it should happen here
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Security
Caravan security is rated by the insurance professionals and the more secure the location, the lower your premium. There are a number of gold rated sites around that are manned, have security gates, check in/out procedures, lighting and cameras and as a result have had zero incidents.
I don't know what DTVAs security rating is. On the face of it, it should be excellent given it's an airport however on inspection, you can see that a number of the measures mentioned above aren't overtly there (I stand to be corrected). I would never store my unit there. |
Wake me up when someone sets a plane on fire...
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I don't know what DTVAs security rating is. Caravan & Motorhome Storage |
Suspect it may not be gold much longer!
Anyway, back to aviation..... |
Speaking of costs, CAA stats show an average of 5 pax per flight using the Norwich route. I know it's a tag-on to the ABZ flight, but how is it economical to have (I assume) full security and handling in place for so few people? It's not even as though there are other flights anywhere near the same time to spread the cost. ABZ continues |
That's madness, not even the harshest of airlines would chop a route that fast, shame on them for not allowing time for growth
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Originally Posted by NorthSouth
(Post 9996113)
EGPO: there would have to be a Letter of Agreement between the air amb and DTVA ATC that specifies what prior communication has to be made before a helicopter can take off. I imagine the air amb ops staff would have a direct line to ATC and as soon as they get a call-out they would hit that button at the same time as the helicopter crew were being given the incident details.
There might be scope - if the helipad location, orientation and surrounding obstacles allow - for some sort of emergency provision that, in the event of inability to contact ATC in time, permits the heli to get airborne on a specified south-easterly heading, perhaps with a height restriction, without clearance. But there won't be any arrangement that contains the remotest possibility that a heli might appear right next to the final approach in front of traffic on a c.1.5nm final (descending through about 500ft). Many thanks for the reply, that wascvery informative. And kind of what I was asking . So you have answered my question :) . Merry Christmas to you and all. Regards Egpo |
Originally Posted by No-More-Bullschit
(Post 9996745)
That's madness, not even the harshest of airlines would chop a route that fast, shame on them for not allowing time for growth
Always easy to spend somebody else's money... |
Is there an official press release or note on a web site anywhere? From Loganair.
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Unlikely to advertise bad news, but not bookable through their website after 05/01.
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Thanks Beafer, is this your new years resolution, useful information!!
We thought you had been arrested for torching the caravans :rolleyes: |
Norwich to Durham was always going to be a strange route. Nowhere to nowhere springs to mind.
Five passengers a day. “Unfortunately, the Norwich – Durham route wasn’t performing in line with expectations with no signs of improving so we’ve taken the decision to withdraw the service from January 7th” |
History..tells us it wouldn’t work.
The next question is who goes first on the ABZ route?? Because someone will...and we will be back to square one.. |
I really thought the amount of people working offshore from Norwich would have translated into better figures. You don't know until you try, but I guess forward bookings didn't show an upward trend.
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Originally Posted by highwideandugly
(Post 9997592)
History..tells us it wouldn’t work.
The next question is who goes first on the ABZ route?? Because someone will...and we will be back to square one.. |
The flight will still operate, it just won't pick up passengers. I think they would continue to offer it if there were other flights anywhere near the departure time. I stick by my point of earlier in the week, it can't have been economical to open up departures for those handful of people.
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Originally Posted by AirportPlanner1
(Post 9997641)
The flight will still operate, it just won't pick up passengers. I think they would continue to offer it if there were other flights anywhere near the departure time. I stick by my point of earlier in the week, it can't have been economical to open up departures for those handful of people.
The flight isn't going to be operating. The flights you book on Loganair website for the Aberdeen to Norwich are BMI regional flights. It is very good news to hear Loganair are very pleased with how things are going on the DTVA - Aberdeen route. |
The next question is who goes first on the ABZ route?? Because someone will...and we will be back to square one.. |
I thought Loganair could have utilized the spare couple of hours by flying to either Dublin or Belfast. I suspect the downturn in the oil industry would have affected the Norwich route. Any prize for the next route they will operate!
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Any prize for the next route they will cease to operate! |
Rumour has it Dublin may be on the cards, not sure if they'd be able to swing
Am interline agreement with Aerlingus. It was a bit in a local Conaught newspaper , though most comments said they felt the story was wrong and that Belfast was most likely. But they are said to be firmly committed to extra routes , I'm not sure the range on their Aircraft but would Stavanger fare any better than Norwich ? |
The down turn in the oil industry has obviously affected such routes as DTV to Norwich with minimal loads so I can't see a link to Stavanger fairing any better during the down turn and I would have thought that if there was sufficient demand an airline would have resumed a link from Newcastle by now.
Companies say that they are 'fully committed' all the time it's just PR most of the time unless any written agreement is signed it means sod all, look at how many airports that have had airlines saying that and before you know it they are history. I wouldn't hold my breath regarding Loganair having a long term relationship with DTV, I'm not knocking the airport in anyway but that's how I personally see it. The limited amount of Guernsey flights could always remain at DTV considering that they are aligned with a travel company so seat sales more or less will be taken up especially considering the amount of flights available. |
Canberra, bmi fly Newcastle-Stavanger 6 x weekly
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Graham it wasn't until I sent it that I immediately realised that BMI do fly from Newcastle to Stavanger but fair play to you for being quick off the mark
I won't change my post though to correct it I'll leave it to you for being so quick to remind me. |
EGPO - interesting that flights from DTVA are being discussed in the Connaught press - can you provide a link?
Canberra97 - which company is involved - no reference in the licence application? |
Well my mistake then but I thought I had read somewhere regarding a travel company backing the Guernsey flights, it's not Superbreak but again I could have mistaken it but if I do find it I will post a link.
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DTV railway station loosing a platform..surely a housing development would be attracted to a railway connection..short sighted?
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The masterplan has an aspiration to move the station nearer to the approach road (and the housing)
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I think it is time the LAs got on with the plans for the new train station and the park & ride system next to roundabouts on airport approach road.
If that happens it will mean the freight sidings can be added to airport site next current location of the pointless railway halt. All covered in the DTVA masterplan documents. http://www.durhamteesvalleyairport.c...Masterplan.pdf |
The airport itself is nowhere near the position where it could justify a train station - if the LA's feel that the housing development (plus those nearby) warranted a train station, it should have been made a condition of the planning permission.
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The plan wasn't for station to be at the airport. The plan was for a park & ride system for the Tees Valley area with train station next to it. That site was chosen because it has good road access and is next railway line that gives access to the local town centres and business parks. It is a bonus that it will give better transport links to airport but it would still require a bus between the park & ride / train station and the airport terminal building.
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Work on the Premium Lounge should be completed by spring 2018. Premium Lounge
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The maintenance and remedial costs of maintaining the current infrastructure are estimated as high as £6m over the next five years – expenditure which is not in line with our business goals. We are not currently pursuing full closure of the station which would require support from both regional stakeholders and the relevant rail authorities. |
Saving £6m by 2022. Exactly HOW does one platform and footbridge cost £1.2m-£1.5m to maintain? I admire the need to cost cut, but that'd be like me saying "i'm gonna save £1m by not drinking and selling a kidney"
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