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On that subject there already is the metal A380 and 747/MD11 combi at the fire school.

February CAA stats:
Terminal passengers: 10,966 - up 5% v prior year
Aberdeen: 1,438 - down 40%
Amsterdam: 9,048 - up 14%
Akureyri: 378 (one off charter)

Amsterdam shows year-on-year growth for the 17th month in succession and it was the best February on the MME-AMS route since 2007. Aberdeen down again due to the extra Loganair flights last year and a bit down on February 2017. Selling 189 places out of 218/220 available spaces on a Titan A321 for a midweek trip to Iceland's second city seems pretty good to me.

Rolling 12 month passengers: 139,358

This is all a bit curious - you'd have thought Peel would own the name "Teesside International Airport" and that the rights would have been included in the deal. Similarly, if Mr Joseph had tried to sell them the name "Teesside Airport" in 2016 that should have sold up. Anyway, should have been sorted out before going public with the name change

To be saying

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If he wasn’t doing this we would have been able to change the name back already

looks a bit unprofessional. I know there is no such thing as bad publicity, but... :rolleyes:

All part of the current roller coaster ride.

I find it odd that he would snap up the rights to Teesside Airport but not Teesside International Airport, or even Tees Valley Airport for that matter...

Wouldn't Peel still own "Teesside International Airport"?

The "Teesside Airport" trademark is owned by Chris Joseph who also (interestingly) owns the dormant companies: "Teesside Airport Limited", "Teesside International Airport Limited", "Tees Valley Airport Limited" and "Tees Valley International Airport Limited". Owning these companies will strengthen the argument that he has genuine rights to the trademark.

Juts to be clear, these companies are nothing to do with the "Teesside International Airport Limited" that was renamed "Durham Tees Valley Airport Limited" in 2004 and which is what the Tees Valley Combined Authority purchased recently.

It looks to me that Peel probably let the Teesside Airport trademarks lapse some time ago (it can be an expensive process to maintain trademarks) and this guy has picked them up.

The IPO website also shows that on 10 December, the Tees Valley Combined Authority applied for the "Teesside International Airport" trademark and that this application is currently being reviewed. Of course, this could well be contested by Mr Joseph who might claim that he owns a company of the same name and also a similar trademark.

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Really? Setting up and "running" a dormant Ltd. costs a few quid annually, so it is not really much different from registering a domain.

I'm truly struggling here. If this Chris Joseph fella can truly prevent the airport using any of the the names he "owns" then come up with another and render his ownership absolutely worthless.

Or, explain this reality to him, offer him a grand for "his name" and tell him to foxtrot oscar.

DC3D - the article at #1386 explains, in summary:

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come up with another and render his ownership absolutely worthless.

The Mayor has asked the people of Teesside and they have spoken - its "Teesside International" they want...

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offer him a grand for "his name" and tell him to foxtrot oscar

The current asking price is £250k, bit of an expectation gap there....

As always, the 7P's... :eek:

After the euphoria of a month or so ago..it’s all gone quiet on the thread.

Anyone have any news,rumours or speculation we can all comment on?

Havnt been through the terminal for a while..does anyone know if the departure tax machine has gone?
Any update on the very important subject of Cobhams operation?

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Havnt been through the terminal for a while..does anyone know if the departure tax machine has gone?

No - the Mayor has said something along the lines of the departure tax is still needed while the airport is making losses

Here's a piece from the local rag about who paid for two banner towing flights with a banner saying "Ben has bought the airport". First one backfired as it had to fly from Fishburn a local grass strip! Other than this we know nothing.

https://www.gazettelive.co.uk/news/t...sside-16181272

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Originally Posted by highwideandugly (Post 10455515)

Havnt been through the terminal for a while..does anyone know if the departure tax machine has gone?

Was still there on 14 April. Both legs to and from AMS were rammed.

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Originally Posted by N707ZS (Post 10455615)

As well as the knock about stuff about the banner towing, this bit is interesting:

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David Soley, deputy chairman of the LEP (local enterprise partnership), told councillors he had been given "specific responsibility" for the airport and revealed he'd had meetings with Stobart staff. Mr Soley added: "I was in on the meeting in Middlesbrough and I made a speech saying that was the first day of the airport - and that the purchase was, dare I say, the easy bit. What we've got to do is make sure we control it, manage it, and we don't have the tail wagging the dog. Because Stobart is there as an operator, it doesn't mean we hand over everything to them - we've got to make sure we're in the driving seat and that we control it. "It's not just getting airlines in - it's the whole site and there's lots of things we to look. It needs to be open and transparent."

Looks like the political issues will rumble on....

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Cllr Haszeldine said: "Gerrymandering from higher up meant that politically, it was very difficult to call in this investment plan because you either took in all of it or none of it. I think that was a deliberate ploy, not by officers, but other areas within this building to make it very difficult to call it in. I don't think we did enough or there was enough information around the airport deal. He added: "We failed slightly in our role in bringing that to the attention of the public. "It was dealt in such a way that it made it very difficult for other members of the cabinet to make a fair and proper assumption on the deal. That became very clear when the full plan for the airport was not released until days or maybe a week before the investment plan was done and decisions had to me made."

I think he's referring to the way the airport deal was bundled with the authorities whole investment budget, rather than reviewed seperately.

'Stop moaning' mayor urges as claims of 'mistakes' made in Durham Tees Valley Airport deal

Good luck to them moving to that toxic place.

It has been anounced that Stobart Jet Centre has taken over from Consort, which was to be expected really.

Also, the 24th looks to be a busy day for the airport, with the Lourdes charters and the Radio One Big Weekend biz traffic coinciding.