Good news.
https://www.limerickleader.ie/news/home/297506/shannon-airport-looks-forward-to-year-of-growth-as-ryanair-add-new-services.html |
Bristol -2pw
Liverpool -3pw Manchester - increasing from 4pw to 6pw. Very positive for the airport, extra 7 flights a week, didn't expect. There was a gaping hole in the UK market. |
Excellent, needed for the airport
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Great announcement and a long time coming as gaps were obvious - Only downside is flight times and days on Liverpool service are shocking - doesent suit the significant football or weekend break traffic with 22:35 departure on a Saturday night - likewise Bristol days of operation very poor and offer nothing for weekend market really
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That's a big expansion to the North-West of England (125%). I'm a bit surprised they didn't target a Scottish route instead of Liverpool.
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A very lucrative deal was offered, one that would have not been offered had ryanair threatened the current service to EDI.
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Deal was for 5 years so not really, means little anyway as most routes from the original deal have actually been scrapped. This recent one is completely independent of that deal.
Will it be built on for the winter? Probably not, other than the new services will remain. |
Shannon 2017
Pax - 1,751,500(incl transit) (+0.15%) Movements - 19,296 (+0.77) Cargo - 19,073 tonnes (+38.67) |
Big jump in cargo. I assume the Coca Cola Traffic helped there.
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Surely if a load of cash was offered they would have tried to secure better days of operation - hard to see these days been top performers they don’t even facilitate a weekend break - hope they added to winter schedule as don’t see them there as yet and most of rest schedule loaded
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Air Canada launch event with Ambassador Kelly in Toronto. Have seen a lot of web ads for the new route in the last week.
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Would be great to see it extended next year. One of them routes which could go either way! The fact that Air Transat maintained a rather useless service for so many years possibly shows there is a market though.
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Aer Lingus is making SNN-JFK year around, Boston gone from Jan-March
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Largely as a result of a shift in completition. United gone from Newark, making the route much more viable.
Shannon's Norwegian routes may be under threat for the winter. Corks Providence is already cut for the winter, and may not be returning again. |
Originally Posted by AerRyan
(Post 10106440)
Largely as a result of a shift in completition. United gone from Newark, making the route much more viable.
Shannon's Norwegian routes may be under threat for the winter. Corks Providence is already cut for the winter, and may not be returning again. |
Irish Examiner reporting this morning that both Shannon and Edinburgh to Providence will be suspended for the Winter along with the Cork to Providence route. No word of cutbacks on Stewart from any airport.
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"Despite the cancellation of the routes to Providence, Norwegian is to expand its Shannon to New York service to four flights per week for the same period."
https://www.irishtimes.com/business/...nnon-1.3450059 |
Financial suicide for Norwegian however.
At this stage, it looks unlikely they will BRS and LPL will operate through winter. |
Norwegian expansion
Norwegian in W18/19 are expanding service to Newburgh by increasing the frequency from 3 to 7 weekly.
Information was found on routes online news. |
Maybe read the thread first?
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Oops sorry I just found out today and decided to post it but my mistake sorry
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REU doing fairly good. PHL strong inbound however a mixed bag outbound
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No major change and no concrete routes. Anything concrete would be announced, and anything far off would certainly not be in the public domain. Occasionally something near announcement would be released, but that's at discretion.
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Air canada doing OK, inaugural was good both ways, monday and today were 50-60%... tomorrows YYZ-SNN looking fairly full though from the seat map
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Bristol and Liverpool on the other-hand are quite a different story
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I’m heading of proposed cuts to set Lingus regional services from both cork and Shannon for winter - anyone hear anything similar ? |
where did you hear this?
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A mere 46 on tonights LPL-SNN, loadings havent been great ever since the route started
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Originally Posted by Dreamliner_01
(Post 10168772)
I’m heading of proposed cuts to set Lingus regional services from both cork and Shannon for winter - anyone hear anything similar ? |
Originally Posted by 840
(Post 10170332)
I can't say I've heard it, but it wouldn't be tremendously surprising. We know Cork-Newcastle is gone. Drop the third rotation from Cork to Manchester on those days where there is one and cut Shannon operations where it's operated as a W from Cork (or alternatively operate them as a W from Dublin) and there's no need for a third aircraft in Cork. It could be a big saving for not too much pain.
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Shannon Edinburgh cut to five per week compared to six per week last winter and I’m hearing planned cuts on Birmingham could be following soon / midweek travel very soft during winter cited - not sure if will happen but heard It from couple of pilots the routes |
Originally Posted by 840
(Post 10170332)
I can't say I've heard it, but it wouldn't be tremendously surprising. We know Cork-Newcastle is gone. Drop the third rotation from Cork to Manchester on those days where there is one and cut Shannon operations where it's operated as a W from Cork (or alternatively operate them as a W from Dublin) and there's no need for a third aircraft in Cork. It could be a big saving for not too much pain.
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SNN-EDI 4x weekly from 31st october. MON,THU,FRI,SUN.
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Originally Posted by Paul015
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Birmingham also reduced to 6 weekly, no Saturday flight. Any word on how Ryanair are doing this summer, it’ll be a quiet winter for U.K. flights this year with these reductions, particularly Wednesday’s with only one stansted, heathrow, Birmingham and Manchester operating. Plus the loss of United in November also... at least there’s additional Norwegians and the extra jfk for the spring. Ryanairs new routes are going ok, REU is doing excellent, BRS too. Room for improvement in regard to LPL |
Air Canada is doing extremely well. Expect a full season and an increase in frequency next year.
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How well are loadings doing percent wise?
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"Shannon Airport growth continues to soar as half year figures take off"
https://www.limerickleader.ie/news/h...ke-flight.html |
CAA UK STATS
April 2017 2018 % London (LHR) - 23,039 | 22,083 -4 London (STN) - 17,423 | 17,112 -4 London (LGW) - 10,169 | 10,249 +1 Manchester (MAN) - 5,821 | 6,115 +5 Birmingham (BHX) - 3,316 | 3,435 +4 Edinburgh (EDI) - 2,397 | 2,508 +5 May 2017 2018 % London (LHR) - 23,782 | 24,453 +3 London (STN) - 16,447 | 16,631 +1 London (LGW) - - - - Manchester (MAN) - 5,541 | 6,334 +14 Birmingham (BHX) - 3,249 | 3,295 +1 Edinburgh (EDI) - 2,714 | 2,852 +5 Bristol (BRS) - NEW | 1,339 - Liverpool (LPL) - NEW | 1,119 - Stats for May are provisional. BRS and LPL began near the end of May. BRS had a 70% LF (1,339/1,890), LPL was 49% (1,119/2,269) |
If those load factors don’t improve dramatically on Bristol and Liverpool they certainly won’t last long - think Bristol is sustainable but Liverpool was always a challenge given capacity on Manchester and a well established service up the road in Knock - probably shows why they haven’t extended them for winter |
Ryanair has been operating Bristol-Knock for ten years, mainly as a summer route (3/4weekly) although it began as year-round. Interestingly, it will operate through the coming winter for the first time for many years at 3 x weekly. The early summer load factors on BRS-NOC have been similar to that on BRS-SNN for the first month of that route (part month to be precise) this year. For example, in May of this year BRS-NOC load factor was just under 73%, similar in 2017, 69% in 2016 and 72% in 2015. So the new BRS-SNN route does not appear to have impacted negatively on BRS-NOC, albeit less than a month's operation is a very small sample of course.
The BRS-NOC load factors typically improve significantly as the summer progresses each year so hopefully the same will apply to BRS-SNN. As always, yields are the important figure. |
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