No, 12 car apparently
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Jet2
First time that there have been nine morning departures for tomorrow:-
NAP/FAO/LPA/AGP/PMI/ACE/AYT/ALC/TFS. |
Jet2
The based ALC 737 into STN today was GDFF.
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180,000 pax due to leave STN over the Easter Weekend...
Comparisions... 260,000 from LGW... 160,000 from MAN... & almost 100,000 from LTN... |
Re Jet2...
& very new JZBK joined the STN based fleet this week... |
Primera seat plan for STN-ALC 28apr-05may is no longer a 737-800 I haven’t looked at other dates but looks like to be a larger aircraft.
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Primera
Originally Posted by daz211
(Post 10100844)
Primera seat plan for STN-ALC 28apr-05may is no longer a 737-800 I haven’t looked at other dates but looks like to be a larger aircraft.
Pete |
Originally Posted by southside bobby
(Post 10100784)
180,000 pax due to leave STN over the Easter Weekend...
Comparisions... 260,000 from LGW... 160,000 from MAN... & almost 100,000 from LTN... |
Originally Posted by southside bobby
(Post 10100784)
180,000 pax due to leave STN over the Easter Weekend...
Comparisions... 260,000 from LGW... 160,000 from MAN... & almost 100,000 from LTN... 40,015 Arrivals 46,015 Departures Spoke to a member of Stobart Ground Handling, they said every easyJet flight is full all weekend. |
STN406
Don't believe what they tell you. A look on EasyJet's web page shows plenty of seats available to many destinations all weekend- for a price of course |
How many seats though? If it’s a handful per flight I’d concur with the handler that they’re all ‘full’
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Originally Posted by AirportPlanner1
(Post 10101801)
How many seats though? If it’s a handful per flight I’d concur with the handler that they’re all ‘full’
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Originally Posted by tophat27dt
(Post 10101991)
Oh...come on....either they are full or not. Probably almost full!
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Originally Posted by _aax1
(Post 10101994)
They're probably full, the website allows overbookings in normal circumstances,
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Originally Posted by tophat27dt
(Post 10102024)
Really? I would be very unhappy to be off loaded and my holiday screwed up.
Most airlines overbook. Charters don't but I believe most other airlines do. As long as you either reserve your seat or check-in online you wouldn't be offloaded. It's the last minute airport check-in whom aren't travelling with children/PRM that do. |
I have paid EZY on a number of occasions and not travelled, only when the price was rock bottom though. I've also benefited from volunteering not to board and taking a later flight, although this was a few years back. British Midland were happy to pay cash at twice the ticket price for 4 of us to take a later flight EDI - LHR. Don't know if this is still common practice.
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STN closed to arriving pax aircraft due mass disruption within the terminal due to a coach blaze earlier outside the terminal.
It appears passengers within the terminal at the time were quickly evacuated airside away from the fire & dense smoke for their own safety without obviously any security checks & now everyone airside are required to be rescreened even if they had been airside & already security checked!. Arrival delay still undetermined & many diversions to LTN..LGW..EMA..&c. Aircraft now being advised EMA..BHX..LTN all unable to accept diversions due volume of traffic. |
.... and SEN which you obviously forgot to mention.
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No but...yeah but..
The info I had to hand when I started my post did not include SEN but yes EZY I believe.. Was not deliberate in any form.. I believe EWG were on their way to LHR!! I did fail to mention that one.. I did try to be an ace reporter..honest.... |
Now seeing diversions to Manchester and cork inbound seems to be returning to cork or at least Ireland I imagine the rest of today’s departures are a right off unsure about arrivals but guessing until the satellite buildings and terminal are empty of out bound passengers nothing will be landing
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Stansted Airport
Verified account @STN_Airport Following Following @STN_Airport More #ADVISORY All departing flights have now been cancelled and passengers are politely asked to leave the Airport. We apologise for the inconvenience and advise you to re-book your flight with the airline. 12:00 PM - 30 Mar 2018 |
Can imagine the procedures to be followed,as stated not just the departure lounge to be cleared but all 3 of the SAT`s as well & no rescreening until the whole of airside is sterilised with then with the added complication of which flights will now be canx anyway & filtering out of the security lines those passengers....a mare.
Just observed the RYR from Warsaw transit overhead at 38000` heading W so STN still not accepting traffic. Remarkably little ill informed comment tho which is a good sign so far. |
Very very unfortunate but cannot see any other means of getting it back on track tonight.
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I also think tomorrow morning particularly Ryanair’s first wave of departures will be cancelled due to tonight’s last wave of inbound being stuck at out stations and some having diverteded to other UK airports not a very good Easter weekend at all.
Having said that I do not blame MAG/Stansted for the situation I bet it was quite a worrying situation have a fire on a bus not knowing the cause I think evacuating through security was the only option. |
Well that has mucked up their Easter passenger forecast.
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Originally Posted by LTNman
(Post 10102499)
Well that has mucked up their Easter passenger forecast.
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Stream of inbounds positioning in...
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Really unfortunate incident at a peak time.
Looks like it was handled very well by the Airport, but it really shows up how little extra capacity is available at surrounding airports to deal with the volume of a/c in such an event. |
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Just watched some so-called reporter doing an OB from Stansted on BBC Breakfast. Never seen so much incompetence in my life. Obviously not done her homework - saying the fire was out at FIVE am yesterday and interviewing two people who should have been on a flight to Barcelona. As a good old Army friend often said 'a total waste of rations'. Where do they get these people from. Rant over.
Good luck to everybody who could not travel yesterday evening hope you get on your way today. |
Originally Posted by compton3bravo
(Post 10102837)
Just watched some so-called reporter doing an OB from Stansted on BBC Breakfast. Never seen so much incompetence in my life. Obviously not done her homework - saying the fire was out at FIVE am yesterday and interviewing two people who should have been on a flight to Barcelona. As a good old Army friend often said 'a total waste of rations'. Where do they get these people from. Rant over.
Good luck to everybody who could not travel yesterday evening hope you get on your way today. Not a rant Compton, more a statement of fact. I studiously avoid TV News these days as it seems to be over populated with bright young things, oozing degrees simultaneously displaying zero common sense. Best wishes, of course, to all those caught up in this awful situation and ruined travel plans..My heart goes out to them.. |
I imagine I shall be heavily criticised for this but why did a bus on fire necessitate closing / evacuating the entire airport ? I get the police would be jumpy about terrorism, the risk of explosion of the bus fuel tank and all the smoke, but complete airport closure just seems to me slightly over the top. Yes I have seen the photos
What happened to Keep calm and carry on ? |
Originally Posted by davidjohnson6
(Post 10103012)
I imagine I shall be heavily criticised for this but why did a bus on fire necessitate closing / evacuating the entire airport ?
Whatever happened it does make one wonder about the wisdom of nominating Stansted as an alternate if a relatively small landslide vehicle fire shuts down the operation (and gets you wondering about the robustness of more than just Stansted). What happened to Keep calm and carry on ? |
Sorry, but shouldn't the airport's RFFS nearby have been able to arrive there immediately and extinguish the fire within a couple of minutes? It is not their duties perhaps? Just ponder the results.
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From what I've read on Twitter it sounds like people were "evacuated" through security from landside to airside, or there was something linked to the evacuation that caused a security concern. The comments weren't completely clear but the impression I get is that people got airside without being screened, therefore the departures/airside areas are no longer sterile. It's then a case of everyone out, security and dogs in, and the entire airside area having to be searched that can take a long time.
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People were evacuated from landside to airside without the necessary security checks. As I understand it, the whole airside part of the terminal including satellite buildings needed a security sweep before these areas were useable again. That’s why no flights departed until after midnight (if any) because of the security operation to secure the airside areas.
I can only assume that because the fire was at the front of the terminal (landside) that this was the safest option available. None of us were there so I’d say it is difficult to comment or have an opinion. Praise to the staff and firefighters involved. |
A nail a horseshoe, horseshoe a horse, a horse a King etc
Cheap/delayed bus maintenance, elec fault, small fire (groundside), multiple diverts etc. Swiss cheese holes blah blah. Anybody care to guess the consequential costs to the likes of RYR, EZY and Jet2? |
STN fire
Originally Posted by eu01
(Post 10103051)
Sorry, but shouldn't the airport's RFFS nearby have been able to arrive there immediately and extinguish the fire within a couple of minutes? It is not their duties perhaps? Just ponder the results.
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Originally Posted by eu01
(Post 10103051)
Sorry, but shouldn't the airport's RFFS nearby have been able to arrive there immediately and extinguish the fire within a couple of minutes? It is not their duties perhaps? Just ponder the results.
Stansted has an appliance ready to respond to any emergency situation landside of the airport grounds whether that’s medical/ traffic accident/ fire. Fire reported at 16:20 Fire under control at 16:40 Fire extinguished at 17:00 |
Oh dear it appeared hopeful at one stage this morning but the ill & uninformed posted as feared.
I honestly began to think that the question..."why did a bus on fire necessitate closing/evacuating the whole airport?"... would not appear on a "professional" forum. A little thought,common sense & knowledge of the situation that evolved quickly coupled with familiarity of the layout at STN would save the "clever" remarks. Kudos to the terminal management who took the right decision being fully aware of the disruptive ramifications for ops later to evacuate thousands of pax to "safety" airside. Perhaps the speculators here would have preferred to be evacuated outside into acrid smoke & an unknown potential threat anywhere landside. The first duty of the terminal management is toward the travelling public & staff`s safety & in this they fully succeeded. |
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