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STN406 5th Jun 2020 03:10


Originally Posted by JW95 (Post 10802234)
what are the major projects underpinning the transformation? At one stage I thought that MAG were planning to completely refurbish satellite 2 and 3 to bring them in line with satellite 1 (well, perhaps not satellite 3 as its FR turf), but satellite 2 could definitely do with an overhaul. The last time I travelled through there, the place looked as if it hadn’t been touched well before the end of the BAA days with very old carpeting, poor lighting, darkened corridors and light fittings not working on several of the jet bridges (of which none appear to have been used in years). It definitely looks very shabby and in poor relation to some of the other areas of the terminal- one does wonder why AA chose SAT 2 to operate their JFK service to and build their business lounge in when they served STN.

Major projects mainly being the actual transformation of the current building into departures only and the construction of the new arrivals terminal.
Expanding the bussing gates to 10 from 4 gates. Redesign of the bridge linking SAT2 to the Terminal. Updating SAT2 to similar level as SAT1.
Adding double airbridges to SAT1.

FRatSTN 5th Jun 2020 07:04

Current projects at least before the start of the pandemic include, Sat 3 gates being designed with bus-stop like bench style seating after successful trial on Gate 43. Also installing new FEGP and stand guidance.
Fully automating the new shoreline check in desks to the baggage system.
New and improved security system added to Terminal forecourt area which eventually will be rolled out across all security lanes.
The Track Transit has had some refreshing works to the interior and better way finding installed.

Futurewise, the arrival terminal concept is under review/redesign with probably a more phased approach to opening.
Extension to the APV (Gates 90-93) for more bussing gates.
There was a potential redesign to the Sat 2 link, I think possibly making some use of the void space above the domestic lounge (Gates 80-88), maybe even removing the intl/domestic split at some point.
New MARS stands 81, 82 and 90-93 were completed end of last year. Possible in the future that dual taxilanes will be added to the Delta apron.

Of course all this is up in the air at the moment giving the current situation.

davidjohnson6 13th Jun 2020 10:55

I've had a look through the ACL report for winter 2020/2021, compared the slots granted (not just requested) and looked for route changes that have not been already announced. I must emphasise that this is based on slots granted - airlines can and sometimes do decline to take up routes, so this is only a "what might happen", not a "what wll happen". In a normal year, many of these routes would have been announced by now; I'm guessing a sizeable number of them simply won't happen:

Eurowings:
Salzburg cancelled

LOT:
1x daily E190 to Budapest

Turkish:
New routes to Ankara and both Istanbul airports

TUS:
1x daily to Larnaca

https://www.acl-uk.org/wp-content/up...TN-W20-ICR.pdf

AirportPlanner1 13th Jun 2020 21:33

Quite telling, and maybe predictable, that list is quite thin whereas there is some interesting stuff over at LGW (accepting some of it will never start) including routes and airlines that have been rumoured or would fit well at STN. In particular Spicejet and/or Vistara, Wideroe (although of course they had just departed STN for SEN...also bad news for them) and worryingly SAS to Copenhagen - surely they won’t run flights from three London airports?

Edit - Actually it’s not that bad compared to LGW - it’s just that an extensive Wizz allocation makes the list look longer and better. LGW are losing a lot too, possibly more than STN but we’ll see.

Hollymead 13th Jun 2020 23:14

I wouldn’t hold your breath on TUS to Larnaca .

intortola 14th Jun 2020 23:13

New from Stansted, not from main passenger terminal though.

https://barbadostoday.bb/2020/06/14/...arting-july-3/

JW95 18th Jun 2020 08:44

DUS
 
FR to launch STN-DUS service, taking over the once former Air Berlin/Darwin Airline route. Nice to see DUS back on the STN map again.

Source: https://corporate.ryanair.com/news/r...uly/?market=en

davidjohnson6 18th Jun 2020 09:06

Are Ryanair planning on running routes from Stansted to both Düsseldorf and Dortmund in parallel ?

UnderASouthernSky 18th Jun 2020 10:13


Originally Posted by intortola (Post 10811016)
New from Stansted, not from main passenger terminal though.

https://barbadostoday.bb/2020/06/14/...arting-july-3/

A tiny bit of digging suggests that a VIP A340 is offered for the flight, with a company called Caledonia Jets involved. However, their website with some mis-matched jet images and not being able to spell "Carribean" [sic] doesn't inspire a huge amount of confidence.

BHX5DME 22nd Jun 2020 12:04

MAG Group - May 2020
 
Pax

Stansted – 20,607 down 99.2%

Manchester – 18,750 down 99.3%

East Mids – zero

Cargo

East Mids – 30,547 down 0.7%

Stansted – 21,210 up 14.1%

Manchester 1,342 down 85.9%

Traffic figures at all MAG airports were severely impacted by the outbreak of Covid-19 in May, as travel restrictions and a dramatic reduction in demand for flights impacted the Group’s passenger numbers. MAG’s reduction was reflective of world trends, with global travel demand reduced by 97% compared to previous year, according to UK Government data.

All MAG airports saw passenger figures reduce by at least 99.3% year-on-year in May, with MAG’s three airports serving 39,357 passengers between them, compared with 5.7 million last May.

At London Stansted Airport and East Midlands Airports, cargo figures held up well (STN: +14.1%, EMA: -0.7%) as key freight operators used the airports to keep essential goods flowing into the country and providing UK firms with a key route to export.

East Midlands Airport was one of the most resilient European airports by flight numbers in May, as its important role as the UK’s biggest airport for cargo aircraft continued.



G-ARZG 22nd Jun 2020 13:19


Originally Posted by UnderASouthernSky (Post 10814166)
A tiny bit of digging suggests that a VIP A340 is offered for the flight, with a company called Caledonia Jets involved. However, their website with some mis-matched jet images and not being able to spell "Carribean" [sic] doesn't inspire a huge amount of confidence.

Yes, their website does look 'odd' (word chosen carefully). They show NBAA and ARGUS logos, but neither of those august bodies seem to
list Caledonia Jets as a member..

jetstream7 22nd Jun 2020 13:28

I like the idea of booking this lot, and finding myself on Tupelov 134, as per their fb cover photo...

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....5c38cb94f0.jpg
Also, if you are a fool, and easily parted from your money, why not sign up for the "Caledonia Jets Fly For Free programme" - $4million profit over 5 years....

Anyone know who Nick Mundy and Karen Drummond the directors of Caledonia Jets are?

G-ARZG 22nd Jun 2020 14:57

Caledonia Jet seems to be have been established as far back as....August 2019, according to Companies House records. Nothing to worry about there, then.

LTNman 27th Jun 2020 06:50

Seems passengers at Stansted can’t social distance when 3 flights depart.

https://www.which.co.uk/news/2020/06...nsted-airport/

Playamar2 27th Jun 2020 06:59

Not surprising is it, as Stansted is in the bottom 3 along with Luton & Manchester for queues at security/passport control according to Which.

pabely 27th Jun 2020 09:05

I think the point being with STN Pax ops running at <5% pre COVID ops this week you would expect no queues at arrivals.

LTNman 30th Jun 2020 14:38

Easyjet are pulling its base out of Stansted. Big surprise but I don’t think they were really ever committed to the airport being a legacy of Go.

AirportPlanner1 30th Jun 2020 15:36

I for one am not surprised at all, I expected it some time ago. My guess is the domestics will be retained and little if anything else, although surely at least one of SEN or STN will retain an AMS route.

In the slightly longer term it gives an opportunity for Jet2 to pick up some extra slots and stands if their own circumstances allow. Can’t see who else would be interested

pamann 30th Jun 2020 15:52


Originally Posted by AirportPlanner1 (Post 10825500)
I for one am not surprised at all, I expected it some time ago. My guess is the domestics will be retained and little if anything else, although surely at least one of SEN or STN will retain an AMS route.

In the slightly longer term it gives an opportunity for Jet2 to pick up some extra slots and stands if their own circumstances allow. Can’t see who else would be interested

If Amsterdam goes, hopefully KLM will pick up the route, which offers a whole world of connections. Fingers crossed.

I too can see the domestics remaining and Jet2 winning on all other routes.

Southend has the most to lose here.

davidjohnson6 30th Jun 2020 15:54

Is there enough demand in Cambridge to connect in Amsterdam to fly elsewhere, beyond what is served from London City and Norwich ?
Maybe there was in 2018 or 2019, but not sure there's enough demand in the next 12 months


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