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FRatSTN 22nd Feb 2020 14:53

Keanaga

I'm fairly sure pax loads are commercially sensitive. You may want to be careful posting such info.

PDXCWL45 22nd Feb 2020 14:58


Originally Posted by FRatSTN (Post 10693578)
Keanaga

I'm fairly sure pax loads are commercially sensitive. You may want to be careful posting such info.

Passenger numbers for routes are readily available through the CAA. What could be commercially sensitive is yield info.

STN406 22nd Feb 2020 15:18


Originally Posted by FRatSTN (Post 10693578)
Keanaga

I'm fairly sure pax loads are commercially sensitive. You may want to be careful posting such info.

I was posting figures often on here until interest in them dropped and I never got in to trouble over it. As it’s been mentioned figures are available from the CAA. Just not daily individual flight figures.

FRatSTN 22nd Feb 2020 15:52

The CAA of course is fine as they are published figures, but individual flight loads you shouldn't be sharing.

Of course, other than the moderators, it's not for anyone on here to say who can post what, but for your own sanity I'd suggest you don't.

Keanaga 22nd Feb 2020 16:10

Sanity are you suggesting I'm mad!

Harrych 22nd Feb 2020 16:56

If pax loads are allowed to be shared I’d be interested in hearing about them more often.

Rutan16 22nd Feb 2020 17:25


Originally Posted by SWBKCB (Post 10693409)
HiSky website says:



What consitutes a "mysterious" charter??

Shifting illegal migrants back to Moldova and Albania !


davidjohnson6 22nd Feb 2020 19:55


Originally Posted by daz211 (Post 10693296)
NEW ROUTE

HiSky - Chișinău to London Stansted. Flights start 10 April 2020

KIV 0930-1040 STN (Tue, Fri & Sun)
STN 1130-1610 KIV (Tue, Fri & Sun)

Thanks to @LuxuryTravelled for the info

Are HiSky a licenced airline (with things like an AOC and 1 or more aircraft that they control) or are they just a travel agent chartering Cobrex Trans to do the licenced, regulated, flying for them ?

Maybe I'm old fashioned, but to me the phrase "virtual airline" is just another way of saying "travel agent". Either an airline is licenced by the Govt of its home country with the issuance of AOC...or it's a travel agent

JDT28 29th Feb 2020 09:31

Emirates
 
Today on the arrivals page it had EK15 at 1150 in addition to the normal emirates flights?

any body have any information?

pamann 29th Feb 2020 09:46


Originally Posted by JDT28 (Post 10698867)
Today on the arrivals page it had EK15 at 1150 in addition to the normal emirates flights?

any body have any information?

EK15 is a Gatwick flight is it not?

daz211 29th Feb 2020 09:59


Originally Posted by pamann (Post 10698876)
EK15 is a Gatwick flight is it not?

Yes is the LGW flight, and is an A388, so I’m confused as to why it’s on the arrivals board at Stansted :confused:.

AirportPlanner1 29th Feb 2020 10:03

[QUOTE=spacedog;10693388]

Originally Posted by daz211 (Post 10693296)
NEW ROUTE

HiSky - Chișinău to London Stansted. Flights start 10 April 2020

I will be very interested to see how this and other obscure routes that are being introduced perform, once the Home Secretary visa restrictions commence at the start of 2021. Not to sure there is too much holiday traffic on the route, I am sure that there will not be enough skilled workers going backwards and forwards

Not necessarily...Moldova is not in the EU hence would be a beneficiary of a new policy that “opens us to the world” or whatever their slogan is. We need construction workers, we need medical staff to name two. Of course whether your average deluded hardline Brexiteer would be happy about Poles and Hungarians being replaced by Moldavians and Ukrainians is another matter

jdcg 29th Feb 2020 10:06

[QUOTE=AirportPlanner1;10698896]

Originally Posted by spacedog (Post 10693388)

Not necessarily...Moldova is not in the EU hence would be a beneficiary of a new policy that “opens us to the world” or whatever their slogan is. We need construction workers, we need medical staff to name two. Of course whether your average deluded hardline Brexiteer would be happy about Poles and Hungarians being replaced by Moldavians and Ukrainians is another matter

Lots of Moldovans have Romanian passports also so in the short term there is a market. Once our repulsive Home Sec gets her way though, who knows

LTNman 29th Feb 2020 10:27

[QUOTE=AirportPlanner1;10698896]

Originally Posted by spacedog (Post 10693388)

Not necessarily...Moldova is not in the EU hence would be a beneficiary of a new policy that “opens us to the world” or whatever their slogan is. We need construction workers, we need medical staff to name two. Of course whether your average deluded hardline Brexiteer would be happy about Poles and Hungarians being replaced by Moldavians and Ukrainians is another matter

What industry and the UK needs to do is train up UK school leavers and young adults for the skills needed like we used to. When my son left school we spent 2 years trying to get him a meaningful apprenticeship before giving up. We even put him through a trade collage for the first year. Companies were not interested as they had an unlimited supply of cheap Eastern European labour that would undercut the locals so why bother spending money on training. Now those same companies are moaning about a potential lack of staff. I hope that UK people will be at the front of the queue for UK jobs and meaningful training. I guess that makes me a hard line ignorant Brexiter

Changing the subject Stansted has increased its drop off charge to an eye watering £5. This is the second increase in less than a year.

daz211 29th Feb 2020 10:57

Drop off, I heard it was to pay for a state of the art, electric car charging facility.
However, there is still the FREE drop of and pick up point in the mid stay car park.

LTNman 29th Feb 2020 11:27

When it comes to drop off charges Stansted leads and Luton always follows. It is reported that Stansted has the UK’s highest charges while Gatwick and Heathrow are still free.

daz211 29th Feb 2020 12:19


Originally Posted by LTNman (Post 10698942)
When it comes to drop off charges Stansted leads and Luton always follows. It is reported that Stansted has the UK’s highest charges while Gatwick and Heathrow are still free.

It would be fine, if people would use it correctly, when I started working at Stansted, back in the day, people would park in the drop off zone, for ages, whilst waiting for people to arrive on a flight, also to take relatives to check-in and then wave goodbye at security, something had to be done to stop this, or you would have total gridlock.
Im in full support of payed drop off, it’s a good source on income, and especially as a totally free option is available.

DC3 Dave 29th Feb 2020 20:24


Originally Posted by daz211 (Post 10698971)
It would be fine, if people would use it correctly, when I started working at Stansted, back in the day, people would park in the drop off zone, for ages, whilst waiting for people to arrive on a flight, also to take relatives to check-in and then wave goodbye at security, something had to be done to stop this, or you would have total gridlock.
Im in full support of payed drop off, it’s a good source on income, and especially as a totally free option is available.

Guilty as charged! Also used to stop at WH Smith’s to get a paper and a Mars Bar.

It’s not the charge that gets me down, it’s the BS claim they have put the price up for environmental reasons. They have put the price up to increase income. End of.

STN406 1st Mar 2020 00:08


Originally Posted by DC3 Dave (Post 10699299)
Guilty as charged! Also used to stop at WH Smith’s to get a paper and a Mars Bar.

It’s not the charge that gets me down, it’s the BS claim they have put the price up for environmental reasons. They have put the price up to increase income. End of.

Well it’s not all ‘BS’ I live local and use the public transport to get to the airport. Saves charges and yes it does something for the environment. I know quite a few people who do the same locally. I think if you can use public transport then do it where possible.
Over 53% of Stansted’s passengers use the transport network to and from Stansted and if some can do more to help the environment then that’s brilliant.

LTNman 1st Mar 2020 05:47

Seems like BS to me. The £5 charge will have been carefully chosen not to put off too many people coming by car. This is a 25% increase and a 40% increase from this time last year. So what percentage of travellers will now not use the drop off area? It won’t be 40% that is for sure so the airport will make money. If this is all about the environment why offer a free drop off area in a car park?


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