Flew the other week from VLY
The crew is currently covered by NCL based the operate MME-CWL-VLY-CWL (night stop) CWL-VLY-CWL-MME makes sense to get the own based staff to reduce on overnight hotel costs |
Originally Posted by HH6702
(Post 10697685)
Flew the other week from VLY
The crew is currently covered by NCL based the operate MME-CWL-VLY-CWL (night stop) CWL-VLY-CWL-MME makes sense to get the own based staff to reduce on overnight hotel costs If it's currently crewed by NCL crew theres the additional cost of getting the crew from NCL to MME. With the current expansion I would think they would want to try and recruit local crew in MME and utilise them from MME only without night stops. It does only appear to be Cabin Crew advertised, not Pilots. Although I do have a feeling there might be more to this. |
Originally Posted by bycrewlgw
(Post 10697603)
CWL is a very price sensitive market. They’d have to seriously look at their fare structure as most will travel to BRS / BHX if the fares are cheaper...
Another factor people may not be considering is that Eastern may well be readying itself as a replacement for Flybe if the worse happens. That would be easier if a base was already there I'd have thought. |
Originally Posted by PDXCWL45
(Post 10697979)
They won't be trying to compete with Bristol or Birmingham that would be pointless. Obviously depending on the routes any operation will be to try and cater for the people who want to fly from Cardiff and aren't necessarily price sensitive.
Another factor people may not be considering is that Eastern may well be readying itself as a replacement for Flybe if the worse happens. That would be easier if a base was already there I'd have thought. |
Originally Posted by bycrewlgw
(Post 10698006)
its not necessarily about competing with BRS or BHX but if the cost of the flights to say PMI is £300 from CWL but only £100 from BRS people will fly from there.
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Originally Posted by PDXCWL45
(Post 10698010)
But Eastern wouldn't be doing a flight like PMI from Cardiff. I'd imagine that it would be more city routes.
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Originally Posted by PDXCWL45
(Post 10698010)
But Eastern wouldn't be doing a flight like PMI from Cardiff. I'd imagine that it would be more city routes.
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Originally Posted by PDXCWL45
(Post 10698010)
But Eastern wouldn't be doing a flight like PMI from Cardiff. I'd imagine that it would be more city routes.
Also peak season end of July Vueling are charging £250pp return. MME-ALC is starting £240 return peak season. Low cost airlines arent always low fare. |
Originally Posted by bycrewlgw
(Post 10698093)
that was an example *insert any city route that FR / EZY fly to from BRS*
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MXP for sure, then FCO and VRN and possibly VCE too, more or less the routes left behind by BE. FAO was always a good one for BE too.
But this is all just “what if”.....nothing set in stone and all we know are that Eastern are advertising for CWL cabin crew.....it may even just be for VLY !! |
Loganair started their new Glasgow service on Thursday! Nice to see a new airline at the airport!
https://www.cardiffairport.com/news/2020/02/28/loganair-flights-to-glasgow-take-off-from-cardiff/ |
Cardiff Airport could get extra £6.8m loan from Welsh Government
https://t.co/66qCVrNlaW |
Originally Posted by PDXCWL45
(Post 10698229)
But to be honest you could say that about most routes from Cardiff that no airline could match Ryanair and Eastern so why bother?
I travel approx eight return trips a year and use BRS when I do not have the choice. Another Embraer operator would be a great option but I feel Easyjet and Ryanair are both missing a trick as they would be able to totally corner the market in the South West/ West part of the UK if one of them created a small base from CWL. I don't see this happening with Ryanair as they have aircraft shortages with the ongoing Boeing fiasco! |
Originally Posted by PDXCWL45
(Post 10700365)
Cardiff Airport could get extra £6.8m loan from Welsh Government
https://t.co/66qCVrNlaW Welsh ministers are considering loaning Cardiff Airport a further £6.8m, after approving a loan of £21.2m last year. The £21.2m loan was an extension on the £38.2m the airport could already borrow from the government. The Welsh Government bought the airport in 2013 for £52m. Since then passenger numbers have increased significantly but in December the airport posted a pre-tax loss of £18.5m, nearly three times higher than the previous year. |
Originally Posted by SWBKCB
(Post 10700677)
So, am I reading this right - they bought the airport for £52m, loaned them £38m, then a further extension of £21.2m, now a further £6.8m. This after making losses of £18.5m last year - nearly three times more (i.e. well over £6m) than the previous year. And this is on commercial terms?
https://www.senedd.tv/Meeting/Archiv...autostart=True |
And yes all loans to Cardiff airport are on commercial terms.
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With all the BE news and comments/rumours going round that they are scheduled to cease operations tonight, what next for CWL ?
Don’t get me wrong I hope in no way that BE do not fold but should this be the worst case scenario who could/would step in to fill the void? Being the main scheduled CWL it’ll cause a lot of concern or worry all round. ABZ: Eastern will take over under T3 VLY: Eastern will take over under T3 BHD: ? CMF: ? ORK: Are Lingus Regional? DUB: Aer Lingus Regional? Ryanair? EDI: Loganair (hopefully) GVA: ? JER: Blue Islands? CDG: Air France Hop? MME: Eastern will take over under T3 |
Originally Posted by Letsflycwl
(Post 10702944)
With all the BE news and comments/rumours going round that they are scheduled to cease operations tonight, what next for CWL ?
Don’t get me wrong I hope in no way that BE do not fold but should this be the worst case scenario who could/would step in to fill the void? Being the main scheduled CWL it’ll cause a lot of concern or worry all round. ABZ: Eastern will take over under T3 VLY: Eastern will take over under T3 BHD: ? CMF: ? ORK: Are Lingus Regional? DUB: Aer Lingus Regional? Ryanair? EDI: Loganair (hopefully) GVA: ? JER: Blue Islands? CDG: Air France Hop? MME: Eastern will take over under T3 On a personal note I'm genuinely gutted that Flybe have gone. I'm flown with them for a couple of years now and enjoyed every flight. They'll be sorely missed by passengers like me. |
Originally Posted by PDXCWL45
(Post 10702960)
Easterns routes will remain. As for the rest CWL will be lucky to keep Edinburgh but the others will be lost and no doubt many will take years to recover but I do hope I'm wrong.
On a personal note I'm genuinely gutted that Flybe have gone. I'm flown with them for a couple of years now and enjoyed every flight. They'll be sorely missed by passengers like me. I wonder if Eastern CWL recruitment was in preparation for the BE news/situation? Could Eastern stand on and cover the other BE routes from CWL ? |
I can’t honestly see EI Regional taking over the Cork route. They’ve no easy aircraft availability (although Stobart do have wet leased aircraft with FlyBe). Biggest factor though is that it will largely drive up yield on Cork-Bristol, with a small bit of leakage to Cardiff-Dublin and Sail/Rail.
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