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PDXCWL45 4th Feb 2020 10:13


Originally Posted by bycrewlgw (Post 10679105)
very true forgot about that! So like for like would be a 16% growth 👍🏻

Probably about that. Very good growth. Also importantly despite the doomsayers saying that Qatar would kill them at Cardiff and force them out KLM saw 160,099 passengers use them in 2019 up 10.3%.

Letsflycwl 4th Feb 2020 16:57

According to TUI booking engine, AlbaStar are doing one of their PMI flights and now appears that it is Freebird operating both a AYT and DLM for them too......

Not Corendon as per CWL timetable

Wales2theworld 7th Feb 2020 22:39

Flybe flights
 
Just tried to book a flight to Dublin with flybe, but all dates have been taken off their site on all routes?? Anyone know anything??

CWL757 7th Feb 2020 23:42


Originally Posted by Wales2theworld (Post 10682247)
Just tried to book a flight to Dublin with flybe, but all dates have been taken off their site on all routes?? Anyone know anything??

Working fine for me.

PDXCWL45 8th Feb 2020 03:36


Originally Posted by Wales2theworld (Post 10682247)
Just tried to book a flight to Dublin with flybe, but all dates have been taken off their site on all routes?? Anyone know anything??

All bookable on their app.

PDXCWL45 11th Feb 2020 05:56

North Somerset council rejected Bristol airport's expansion application. Definitely a boost for Cardiff airport in the short term at least so hopefully they'll be able to capitalise on it and attract extra flights and new airlines before Bristols expansion eventually gets approved at UK level.

Letsflycwl 12th Feb 2020 18:50

I know it’s only Wikipedia but wow someone needs to be update the CWL page to show both AlbaStar and Freebird.....it is looking pretty minimalistic under the airline list 🤔🤔🤔

I have no idea how to do this !!

PDXCWL45 25th Feb 2020 07:50

Loganair have released winter 2020/21 and there's no change for Cardiff. Like summer the route will operate 8 weekly with no flights on Saturdays and double daily flights on Fridays and Sundays.

Letsflycwl 26th Feb 2020 18:38

Apparently Eastern/Flybe are starting MME sun routes to ALC with their Embraer fleet....I wonder if CWL would ever want look at that as an option ?

With Eastern taking on further E170 & E195 aircraft they could easily fill some of the old BE jet routes......

Just a thought or dream.....

fanrailuk 26th Feb 2020 19:34

Alicante
 

Originally Posted by Letsflycwl (Post 10696673)
Apparently Eastern/Flybe are starting MME sun routes to ALC with their Embraer fleet....I wonder if CWL would ever want look at that as an option ?

With Eastern taking on further E170 & E195 aircraft they could easily fill some of the old BE jet routes......

Just a thought or dream.....

Alicante is adequately served year round by Vueling - 3 weekly in the winter; and 6 weekly in the summer.

Add to that the TUI services.

There is absolutely no need for more ALC flights.

Having looked at the T3 fares from MME, that’s not welcome at CWL on any routes!



PDXCWL45 26th Feb 2020 19:55


Originally Posted by Letsflycwl (Post 10696673)
Apparently Eastern/Flybe are starting MME sun routes to ALC with their Embraer fleet....I wonder if CWL would ever want look at that as an option ?

With Eastern taking on further E170 & E195 aircraft they could easily fill some of the old BE jet routes......

Just a thought or dream.....

It would be great to see the E195s back at Cardiff from an enthusiasts point of view and for the ex Flybe European routes to return and hopefully they will in the future but it's more probable now that the airport will look towards airlines like Ryanair, Jet2, TUI, Alitalia and Lufthansa to reintroduce those routes in the future. They may well not be successful but I think the Flybe jet operation served it's purpose in helping to get the airport back on its feet. In a way that is what Teesside is doing with Eastern.

Letsflycwl 26th Feb 2020 20:27


Originally Posted by PDXCWL45 (Post 10696723)
It would be great to see the E195s back at Cardiff from an enthusiasts point of view and for the ex Flybe European routes to return and hopefully they will in the future but it's more probable now that the airport will look towards airlines like Ryanair, Jet2, TUI, Alitalia and Lufthansa to reintroduce those routes in the future. They may well not be successful but I think the Flybe jet operation served it's purpose in helping to get the airport back on its feet. In a way that is what Teesside is doing with Eastern.

It was just a dream lol and not really aimed at ALC but more towards the city break destinations again that BE once served.

Would love to see extra flights from FR and/or even a small LS base.....

caaardiff 26th Feb 2020 21:15

I can imagine FR will soon move in on ALC like they have with AGP.
IF Eastern were ever to come in with the 195's, then I can see FAO, IBZ, MAH, FCO and MXP being possibilities to utilise one aircraft. I can't see a base happening though so would have to see some interesting scheduling. Teeside are basically doing what CWL did with Flybe. Throwing money at the Airline in a desperate attempt to stimulate demand and growth.
Luckily CWL now have some stats to go to Eastern with and that info can also be shared by Flybe. Hopefully the routes were actually profitable, but we'll never know that. I wouldn't completely dismiss it, as BE wanted rid of the E-Jets but Eastern will be looking for ventures. CWL is tried and tested.

Also, interestingly the MME-ALC flights are on the E170, not the E195. There's talk of further European routes from MME, but MME-ALC is only 2x weekly, which is hardly any utilisation of the aircraft and there's 3 E195's on the way. There's certainly no demand for anything bigger than an E170 for private/sports charter work. So unless they are being chartered by a specific Tour Operator, they might well be going it alone on the European scheduled market. I'm sure I read somewhere that a Travel Agents in South Wales was possibly looking at running their own flights (Rumour of course)

fanrailuk 26th Feb 2020 22:06


Originally Posted by caaardiff (Post 10696767)
I can't see a base happening...

Don’t speak too soon!

Eastern are currently recruiting Cabin Crew for CWL.

https://www.easternairways.com/careers/cabin-crew

caaardiff 26th Feb 2020 22:11


Originally Posted by fanrailuk (Post 10696790)
Don’t speak too soon!

Eastern are currently recruiting Cabin Crew for CWL.

https://www.easternairways.com/careers/cabin-crew

Interesting! Could well be to crew the VLY flights as I'm guessing they were crewed by NCL crew overnighting. New Teeside crew may not be being utilised at CWL. Hopefully there's more to it though!

Letsflycwl 27th Feb 2020 07:02

Interesting indeed.....guess only Eastern & CWL know the reason, maybe it is just crew for the VLY route or even something to do with all the “new” Embraer jet joining the fleet (but no suggestion at present that any part of these new Embraers are destined for CWL).

SealinkBF 27th Feb 2020 18:52

This is the Cardiff Airport that made CityJet walk away because of their deal with Flybe!

Mind you, I think CityJet were walking away from scheduled services anyway!

PDXCWL45 27th Feb 2020 19:10


Originally Posted by SealinkBF (Post 10697544)
This is the Cardiff Airport that made CityJet walk away because of their deal with Flybe!

Mind you, I think CityJet were walking away from scheduled services anyway!

To be fair those deals were done under different management than is now in place now and the airport is in a different place.

bycrewlgw 27th Feb 2020 20:24

CWL is a very price sensitive market. They’d have to seriously look at their fare structure as most will travel to BRS / BHX if the fares are cheaper...

Letsflycwl 27th Feb 2020 20:32


Originally Posted by bycrewlgw (Post 10697603)
CWL is a very price sensitive market. They’d have to seriously look at their fare structure as most will travel to BRS / BHX if the fares are cheaper...

True that’s always been the case at CWL but does seem odd why Eastern are advertising for cabin crew at CWL......it can’t just be for the VLY flights so do wonder if something is being planned


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