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Gulf Julliet Papa 27th Sep 2017 18:10

Just because they are doing circuits doesn't mean they will be signed off tomorrow. Shortage is with Captains, not cadets

TRN1K 2nd Oct 2017 08:49


Originally Posted by Rob Royston (Post 9901486)
The hard area is 500ft, looking at Google Earth. It could probably be extended to 1000ft if the will was there. Might help with their 380 hopes as well.



I think they will have more to do than just extend the runway 1000ft or so for the A380. Runway and taxiway width/clearances for a start...

ATNotts 2nd Oct 2017 08:58


Originally Posted by ScotsSLF (Post 9905974)
Major flurry of FR training activity over the last two days with a 737 and 738 circuit bashing together for long periods. Is this FR trying to train new pilots quickly to try and fill the gaps?

At EMA FR appears to have upped the tempo of training, most days the 73G EI-SEV is in the circuit, but mainly during "office hours". This last week I have seen it going up, and in the circuit well into the evening.

DC-10-COL 8th Oct 2017 20:58


Originally Posted by billyg (Post 9882004)
Wishful thinking on your part. With the forthcoming expansion of GLA towards the river there will be new maintenance and cargo space created. GLA representatives have already been talking to Cargolux earlier this year with a view to moving their services once the work is complete in 2019 !

And I can ASSURE you, Cargolux ARE NOT Moving!

(Bracing for the onslaught 🙄)

billyg 9th Oct 2017 17:47

With the increased losses at PIK , which can't be allowed to go on much longer , then Cargolux might not have any say in whether they're moving or not. :-)

TRN1K 10th Oct 2017 08:41

Maybe they wont, but you can be sure they will choose EMA or STN over GLA!

inOban 10th Oct 2017 08:45

There's surely no reason why they couldn't shut down commercial passenger ops, while keeping the airport open for freight/GA/training etc.

GrahamK 10th Oct 2017 09:19

Given that the 747-8 is presently banned from using GLA, you are probably correct. I suppose they could use the 747-400 through GLA though.

Callum Paterson 10th Oct 2017 12:41

You seem more upset at the prospect of GLA gaining Cargolox than you do at the prospect of PIK losing Cargolox.

Fan boy logic right there!

TRN1K 10th Oct 2017 14:31

Excellent input.:D

Skipness One Echo 10th Oct 2017 14:37

Is main deck cargo loading something GLA wants? Without getting in the middle (again) of ye olde local airporte argument, is there an appetite for 747F operations at Glasgow? Assuming they could unload a B744F on the west apron remotes, the cargo area is on the other side of the airport with limited warehouse facilities. In all honesty, EMA or consolidating at STN would make more sense for CLX. Freight doesn't care which airport it uses but GLA has never done this and has a different focus.

willy wombat 10th Oct 2017 16:12

I can't get excited about this discussion but, out of interest, why is the 747-8 "banned" at GLA?

GrahamK 10th Oct 2017 17:23

Apologies, perhaps banned is the wrong terminology. Not cleared/not approved to use GLA. I assume length or the wingspan is the reason.

http://www.boeing.com/assets/pdf/com...8-Airports.pdf

southside bobby 10th Oct 2017 17:41

There was much detailed looking at STN`s taxiways & parking stands (concrete infilling) in preparation for the B748F with GTI/BAWC..STN was ready thus before LHR because of the parking requirements.
The a/c is Category 10.

jensdad 10th Oct 2017 19:13

Interesting document GrahamK. Off-topic, but it's a bit bizarre that Damascus are allowed to handle the B748 but the legal disclaimer on the right hand side says that we aren't allowed to tell them!

TRN1K 12th Oct 2017 14:59


Originally Posted by southside bobby (Post 9920661)
There was much detailed looking at STN`s taxiways & parking stands (concrete infilling) in preparation for the B748F with GTI/BAWC..STN was ready thus before LHR because of the parking requirements.
The a/c is Category 10.

Similar work was done at PIK in preparation for CLX operations. She's a big beast!

southside bobby 12th Oct 2017 17:22

Yes she is...some observers believe it a standard B747 with a few enhancements...
Actually it is a Category above the B744 at Category 10 the same as the A380...

billyg 17th Oct 2017 18:40

Ron Smith leaving his post as CEO by the end of this month ? That was short lived !
Trouble at mill ?

Callum Paterson 17th Oct 2017 19:43

Put the greatest business minds in the world in the top seat and even they won't turn a profit from passenger ops at this airport.

Rob Royston 18th Oct 2017 12:22

From Googling, all I can find is that he wanted a flight to Heathrow. It's flying to Heathrow that has left Scotland with restricted routes to the World.


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