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ScotsSLF 16th May 2020 16:15

It was around 400 in 2019 - not sure what it is now but given that they were in the process of putting up an additional hanger it must be still around that number?

Rob Royston 16th May 2020 18:52


Originally Posted by ScotsSLF (Post 10784330)
It was around 400 in 2019 - not sure what it is now but given that they were in the process of putting up an additional hanger it must be still around that number?

If 400 Ryanair personnel earn £25k on average, that's £10 million per annum into the local economy and rental fees to the airport for the hangers. If Ryanair need maintenance and passenger operations to make staying at PIK worthwhile you can see how the politicians might see a loss on the passenger side as a price worth paying.

Navpi 16th May 2020 21:47

Plenty space st Manchester !

nighthawk117 18th May 2020 10:12


Originally Posted by Rob Royston (Post 10784172)
The last time that I saw government figures it was the passenger side that was losing money. If I remember correctly it was over £20 per passenger.
How many jobs does the Ryanair maintenance hanger provide? Is it enough to keep sustaining the losses on their passenger movements? If not they need to send them packing.

Do you have a source for this? I've never seen PIK give a breakdown of costs per segment. They handily break down revenue, and show that half of revenue is from passenger related services, but they don't give a similar breakdown for costs.

goldeneye 18th May 2020 10:43

The sad reality is Prestwick is never going to go back to the glory days. Ryanair will stay as long as it’s cheap enough for them. Not to mention the current global situation, airlines are not really going to be looking to set up an additional base in Scotland anytime soon.

Would be interesting to see how much the terminal costs to run and would it be cheaper to demolish and build a smaller more modern facility.

Rob Royston 18th May 2020 11:11


Originally Posted by nighthawk117 (Post 10785807)
Do you have a source for this? I've never seen PIK give a breakdown of costs per segment. They handily break down revenue, and show that half of revenue is from passenger related services, but they don't give a similar breakdown for costs.

There was discusion from #170 above onwards, based on live broadcasting from the Rural Affairs Committee at Holyrood in 2018. It was said that the losses were due to passenger operations.

GrahamK 18th May 2020 11:42


Originally Posted by goldeneye (Post 10785831)
The sad reality is Prestwick is never going to go back to the glory days. Ryanair will stay as long as it’s cheap enough for them. Not to mention the current global situation, airlines are not really going to be looking to set up an additional base in Scotland anytime soon.

Would be interesting to see how much the terminal costs to run and would it be cheaper to demolish and build a smaller more modern facility.

Isn't the terminal a listed building thus cannot be demolished? All the lighting has been changed to energy saving lighting now, so that should save a bit of money. Do they need as many car parking spaces nowadays?

VickersVicount 18th May 2020 18:40


Originally Posted by GrahamK (Post 10785906)
Isn't the terminal a listed building thus cannot be demolished? All the lighting has been changed to energy saving lighting now, so that should save a bit of money. Do they need as many car parking spaces nowadays?

I'd doubt LED light bulbs and some parking will save it...

nighthawk117 18th May 2020 19:45


Originally Posted by GrahamK (Post 10785906)
Isn't the terminal a listed building thus cannot be demolished? All the lighting has been changed to energy saving lighting now, so that should save a bit of money. Do they need as many car parking spaces nowadays?

Well that should save them a £100 a year. Just another £4,466,900 to go :-P

TRN1K 20th May 2020 08:21

Notice there has been no mention of the 5 x CAF movements in Prestwick since Friday. :zzz:

Easy to slate the place when it loses a few movements but we also must remember to be positive when it appears all is not lost.


highwideandugly 21st May 2020 19:37

A bit off kilter...but out of interest..with all the lockdowns etc. Does anyone know where all these night stopping crews night stop?

chaps1954 21st May 2020 21:33

In the terminal, pull the benches together

tartan 201 17th Aug 2020 18:18

£3m operating profit in year to March 2020

https://dailybusinessgroup.co.uk/2020/08/prestwick-airport-confident-of-sale-in-return-to-profit/

ScotsSLF 17th Aug 2020 21:02

Good to see the turnaround and shows what can be done. The challenge will be ( like all airports ) to ride the storm that they are currently going through with the impact of COVID 19. Whilst the military fuel and tech stops are returning the movements are a fraction of what they were pre COVID and although freight has taken an upturn overall by all accounts, the oil and gas equipment flights from Houston have been hit due to that sector's downturn. However well done to the much maligned PIK Management who have returned a profit despite the PAX challenges. I wonder what is going through the minds of the 'preferred bidders'?

nivsy 19th Aug 2020 08:15

I also say well done PIK. Always criticised and now for it to have had this turn around is good news. Plus sometimes it has some cracking movements!!
​​​​​​It has amazing space and runway capability. Nice to see this turn of Fortune particularly as the GLA airport is frankly a bit of a sorry place these days....

nighthawk117 19th Aug 2020 09:37

excellent news, and quite the turnaround! I look forward to viewing the accounts to see where the extra revenue has came from.. i'm guessing military movements must be up significantly.

Link Kilo 30th Sep 2020 13:45

"We have been advised that the company selected as Preferred Bidder does not wish to complete the purchase of the business at this time": https://www.parliament.scot/S5_Rural...ickAirport.pdf

VickersVicount 30th Sep 2020 20:30

Like we didnt see that coming... Why would you ever at this time. Suppose could resurface again in future.
More tax payers heating bills over the winter to subsidise the half empty benidorm express....

rob39 11th Oct 2020 01:52

So the mystery preferred bidder pulls out, now an apparent large European transport company and a far Eastern banking corporation now looking into possibly bidding for the airport

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/ayrshi...s-buy-22815246

CabinCrewe 11th Oct 2020 10:39

Fed Ex or DHL or Amazon? Could consolidate all their Scottish airfreight at that site.


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