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Expressflight 27th Sep 2017 16:12

southside bobby

All I can say is that I have my methods which I cannot elaborate on - sorry.

Planespeaking 27th Sep 2017 16:21


Originally Posted by southside bobby (Post 9905873)
Expressflight....quantify please.

All the information is out there SSB, surely you can find it...even though it's not such good news for STN. But it could be good for SEN.

southside bobby 27th Sep 2017 16:53

Planespeaking....Please feel free to comment when your good self actually posts any news at all on these boards.You are very a very tiresome chap even when a polite question is posed.I have requested several times now you stop being personal.I would feel that if a SEN poster actually informs us of some good news from down there such as an uptick in bookings in lieu of RYR then perhaps I may expect to see a fuller story without having to search it all myself eh?. The original poster wishes not to divulge his sources & then you bite me by trying to be clever & sarcastic & say it`s out there & to look myself. Believe me I ain`t that interested to research it but to be informed,which these posts should be about yes?..As I asked just quantify...simples...Always personal on this thread & drift over which actually says a lot.

Expressflight 27th Sep 2017 17:48

southside bobby

I hope you don't think I declined to state my source just because it was you who asked for it; I would give the same answer to whoever enquired. I guard my sources for many reasons and it's up to others to decide whether or not I know what I'm talking about. If I was obliged to give chapter and verse ever time then I regret my contributions here would be many fewer.

southside bobby 27th Sep 2017 18:51

Expressflight & Generally....No...no problem as such...believe it or not I would almost certainly have left your first answer as a no reply from me..respect..(tho disappointed).My reply was effectively prompted by the next poster who is making a habit of picking up in an annoying & a personal way everything I type in this & other threads(I`m no snowflake but live too within forum guidance)..It is understood that I have views with SEN`s business model (& a certain style of expression which I vary) but it is always with the inanimate object & not any individual.... There are however several individuals on here with SEN connections who resort in the very first instance to barracking...(witness another poster who barracked me personally with no justification this AM on either the STN or RYR thread.This is doing SEN no favours at all,makes it appear infantile & only results in tit for tat.Just to answer/counter the "arguments" & statements is good...Thanks for your considered reply....It is noted "others" never do...

rowly6339 27th Sep 2017 18:53

4th based easy
 
I do remember somebody on the Sen 5 thread mentioned this as a possibility, now who was it?

mik3bravo 27th Sep 2017 23:46

Going back to the OP on this thread. I used SEN recently and have to say it was a good experience.

Had a 06:30 departure. Security was fast. Shops are good. Fruit gaming machines down on departures gate level outside the mens toilets are naff and a bit stupid if you ask me - no need for them.

My only complaint being exiting car park 3 long stay. Prepaid on Holiday Extras but slipped the ticket in at exit barrier... BOOM... £168 due please!

Pressed the help button gave the chap my vehice reg and parking ref number and he let me out. Same thing happened on the two cars in front of me. Getting out of the car park took me 12 minutes in sitting there between cars in front and myself pressing help and going through the motions.

I've noticed this is the norm on any Holiday Extras car park advanced bookings. It's happened to me at Gatwick, City, Stansted and now Southend. I think there must be some screw up on the integration of Holiday Extras booking system to the airport systems. When I book direct on airport websites I never have this problem.

DC3 Dave 28th Sep 2017 00:44


Originally Posted by rowly6339 (Post 9906039)
I do remember somebody on the Sen 5 thread mentioned this as a possibility, now who was it?

It was...... sorry SEN 5 has been closed and archived.

My own amateur observations and some professional analysis from others back what you said. But when can we expect an official statement?

sarnold 28th Sep 2017 15:56

Does anyone know how the CGN-SEN route is performing? Just looked to book on it and quite often it is showing at £4.97. This seems very cheap, even if trying to promote the route?

rowly6339 28th Sep 2017 17:54


Originally Posted by DC3 Dave (Post 9906361)
It was...... sorry SEN 5 has been closed and archived.

My own amateur observations and some professional analysis from others back what you said. But when can we expect an official statement?

As soon as I see something official on paper I will let you know but the noise I'm hearing is rather positive regarding this.

SEN Observer 29th Sep 2017 12:44

GLASGOW
 
BBC Look East has just given the SEN Glasgow flights a boost. They have just reported that Ryanair's problems could well be a boost for SEN as they are soon starting Glasgow flights.

mikkie4 29th Sep 2017 13:16

watched that also, lets hope that something good could come out of this chaos for SEN, how difficult would it be for FLYBE to put on extra flights to/ffom Glasgow at short notice?

goldeneye 29th Sep 2017 15:55

I think with FR suspending EDI & GLA there is scope for BE/Stobart to up the rotations on Glasgow in particular. Time from SEN to Liverpool St is comparable to that of STN. If they have the right fares could be a money spinner for them.

Barling Magna 2nd Oct 2017 09:37

I think the very sad demise of Monarch, with all its stress and worries for its staff and passengers, is probably also unfortunate for SEN. Suddenly a lot of slots will be available from LGW and LTN which would surely be more attractive for any airlines seeking to open new routes to London? Time will tell.

DC3 Dave 2nd Oct 2017 10:30

I think we can be certain that easyjet will have a plan in place following Monarch's demise. If a fourth aircraft was coming SEN's way, I fear it may now be diverted elsewhere.

Expressflight 2nd Oct 2017 11:23

..... either that or it might provide a greater opportunity to add new SEN destinations. We shall see.

tws123 2nd Oct 2017 11:30

On the basis that the schedules are planned way in advance, I find it unlikely that EZY would just scrap their expansion plans. In the mid-term it's hard to say. Wizz for example might rethink a move to SEN (if it was on the cards) because of the spare capacity at LTN now. Guess we'll just have to wait and see.

22/04 2nd Oct 2017 16:36

Whilst significant remember there were only 4 aircraft based at LTN and few destinations not served by others. I doubt EZY plans for SEN will change - a separate market

LTNman 2nd Oct 2017 17:46

Gatwick was always the prize. Other London airports have partly benefited from a lack of slots south of the Thames so there might well be a knock on affect for other London airport if those slots are grabbed and aircraft are moved to fill those slots.

You can be sure Luton and Gatwick who had 13 Monarch based aircraft between them will be looking to fill their spare capacity making Southend’s quest for new airlines somewhat harder. This won’t be helped by the completion of Luton’s terminal expansion next year.

Expressflight 2nd Oct 2017 17:56

I'm not sure if I've aired this view on here before but I certainly have elsewhere.

The LON airports will not run out of capacity anytime soon so making SEN the only game in town for entrants to the LON market is a very long way off, as LTNman rightly illustrates. Ensuring that SEN has, for example, suitable public transport links and provides an attractive customer proposition is a surer way of attracting other operators in my view. They are achieving the latter if not the former at present.


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