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canberra97 12th Oct 2018 23:37


Originally Posted by jensdad (Post 10272478)
Good news for my local (NCL) but I agree, it's going to make the ABZ-LCY less attractive.
Depends how long the stop is I suppose: Oh for the days when Air UK F27s used to pop into NCL on the way from ABZ to Norwich, loading and unloading in a few mins while the engines were still running (or is my memory playing tricks on me? It was a while ago :) )

Your be pleased to know that your memory isn't playing tricks with you and if you remember even further back it was Air Anglia doing those flights before Air UK was formed in 1979 by the merger of Air Anglia and BIA.

Dan Air also operated a similar multi stop ''intercity'' service with the HS748.

jensdad 13th Oct 2018 00:02


Originally Posted by canberra97 (Post 10272485)


... if you remember even further back it was Air Anglia doing those flights before Air UK was formed in 1979 by the merger of Air Anglia and BIA.

Ah yes, I can only just remember seeing an F27 with the black and yellow AQ (was that their 2-letter prefix?) stripes on the fuselage but Air UK logo on the tail. Them were the days :)

Richard Taylor 13th Oct 2018 06:46


Originally Posted by Flightrider (Post 10272405)
That's before the new additional flights are loaded. Those'll be the ones from Aberdeen to London City which will very soon be stopping at Newcastle on the way up and down. Bonkers.

And BA will be cutting ABZ-LHR back next summer as well - BA1310/1311 and 1312/1313 both gone.

I could see BA1310/11 being dropped but BA1312/13 has been a mainstay of BA LHR schedules for many years - I'd be amazed if they axe that, but it's been a grim period at ABZ so nothing would surprise me.

Falcon900LX 13th Oct 2018 13:25


Originally Posted by jensdad (Post 10272478)
Good news for my local (NCL) but I agree, it's going to make the ABZ-LCY less attractive.
Depends how long the stop is I suppose: Oh for the days when Air UK F27s used to pop into NCL on the way from ABZ to Norwich, loading and unloading in a few mins while the engines were still running (or is my memory playing tricks on me? It was a while ago :) )

Max of 25 mins surely.

oapilot 13th Oct 2018 15:40

On the ground yes, but factor in the approach taxi in and out and departure plus climb to cruise altitude and I’d be amazed if the ABZ LCY time is less than 40 mins longer. More like an hour of it’s on the ATR...

househunter 13th Oct 2018 20:34

BA
 

And BA will be cutting ABZ-LHR back next summer as well - BA1310/1311 and 1312/1313 both gone
BA1310/1311 and 1312/1313 are both selling for next summer

oldart 14th Oct 2018 09:00

Do they still allow aircraft to keep their engines running whilst off loading and loading passengers? Health and safety seems to spring to mind.

Porrohman 14th Oct 2018 09:20


Originally Posted by oldart (Post 10282516)
Do they still allow aircraft to keep their engines running whilst off loading and loading passengers? Health and safety seems to spring to mind.

When I used the Aberdeen - Edinburgh - Leeds - Norwich service in Air Anglia days, one engine kept running during the stops; the opposite sde from the loading and unloading. The noise of the RR Dart made communications between passengers and staff nearly impossible. Everything was done with hand signals. It was a long time ago but ISTR the Darts needed a start cart to get them going so keeping an engine running presumably shortened the turnaround time. The Q400s don't usually need a start cart so there's less need to keep engines running.

toon22 14th Oct 2018 12:28

There was also a Paris - Newcastle - Aberdeen run on Air Anglia’s F28 in the late ‘70’s. I used it a few times and it was a great run up the coast NCL ABZ. Does my memory fail me if I recall a LGW NCL ABZ routing at weekends with a Dan Air 1-11?

Richard Taylor 14th Oct 2018 14:17


Originally Posted by toon22 (Post 10282670)
There was also a Paris - Newcastle - Aberdeen run on Air Anglia’s F28 in the late ‘70’s. I used it a few times and it was a great run up the coast NCL ABZ. Does my memory fail me if I recall a LGW NCL ABZ routing at weekends with a Dan Air 1-11?

Yes, indeed they did.

jensdad 14th Oct 2018 15:22


Originally Posted by Richard Taylor (Post 10282736)
Yes, indeed they did.

I can even remember the flight number: DA168. The first leg was either 161 or 167 :)

Jamesair 14th Oct 2018 15:36

There also used to be GLA - NCL - AMS by Brit Cal.

Flightrider 14th Oct 2018 17:00


BA1310/1311 and 1312/1313 are both selling for next summer
Let's agree to revisit this in a few weeks' time?

highwideandugly 14th Oct 2018 20:06

And Edinburgh Newcastle Copenhagen with BCAL bac111-500 s !

Richard Taylor 3rd Nov 2018 10:32

Couple of recent stories:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotla...tland-46071450
Is that going to be based at ABZ or ARI somewhere?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotla...iness-46069651
Interesting article, although not surprising.

Jim__ 8th Nov 2018 10:18

Ryanair to start a service to Bydgoszcz, according to Alastair Dalton in the Scotsman today. No details yet of frequency.

BAladdy 8th Nov 2018 14:41


Originally Posted by househunter (Post 10281846)
BA1310/1311 and 1312/1313 are both selling for next summer

BA have over the last couple of weeks made a number of changes to the schedule. Flights from ABZ-LHR now showing as operating 48 x weekly next summer. That is the same frequency as S18.

BA will operate:

8 flights - Mon/Fri
7 flights - Tue/Wed/Thu/Sun
4 flights - Sat

Flightrider 8th Nov 2018 16:03

1310/1311 will be gone and the 1312/1313 will operate on Saturdays only unlike every day as today. Frequency is dropping by two per day for S19.

Richard Taylor 8th Nov 2018 16:55

How are the pax numbers on the BA LHR these days? Or is it the decreased yields impacting freq?

New airport MD:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotla...iness-46097095

oapilot 9th Nov 2018 08:21

London City
 
Flybe/Eastern have announced new service Newcastle to London City. Just looked at booking next Jan for ABZ to City and the flight times jumped from 1:40 to 2:30 hours. So I’m guessing the rumours that the City flights going via Newcastle might be true.
Flybe website shows flight as non stop still but suppose that just means you don’t change aircraft.
Think I’ll be going via LHR in future. It’s cheaper and even with the extra commute in London, just as quick.


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