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stewyb 13th Jul 2018 16:22


Originally Posted by Richard Taylor (Post 10195860)
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotla...iness-44821709

Wonder what is behind this? Maybe she just feels it's the natural end of a cycle & time to do something else. Maybe.

All 3 AGS airports will now have new MD's!

Richard Taylor 14th Jul 2018 09:51

Suggestions there is a new 'structure' coming at AGS & she wasn't happy about it.

https://www.pressandjournal.co.uk/fp...ss-steps-down/

Richard Taylor 16th Jul 2018 07:59

Interesting movement inbound in the next hour from across the pond:

N767MW (B762), GTI 7755 from Moline, IL.

Wonder what it's here for - maybe picking up the businessmen deposited by the Trump 757 that came in Fri with POTUS son Eck, who was playing a round (of golf!) at Menie.

Or related to The Open taking place at Carnoustie this week.

CaptainDoony 16th Jul 2018 21:16


Originally Posted by Richard Taylor (Post 10197793)
Interesting movement inbound in the next hour from across the pond:

N767MW (B762), GTI 7755 from Moline, IL.

Wonder what it's here for - maybe picking up the businessmen deposited by the Trump 757 that came in Fri with POTUS son Eck, who was playing a round (of golf!) at Menie.

Or related to The Open taking place at Carnoustie this week.

in until Sunday for the golf - believe it was at EDI last time the Open was in this neck of the woods.

Porrohman 17th Jul 2018 08:09


Originally Posted by CaptainDoony (Post 10198410)


in until Sunday for the golf - believe it was at EDI last time the Open was in this neck of the woods.



Is Leuchars currently an option for movements like this? It is much closer to Carnoustie than ABZ.

Although obviously unsuitable for a B762, I hear a lot of biz jets will be using DND this week for the golf.

yeo valley 17th Jul 2018 12:44

Moline
 

Originally Posted by Richard Taylor (Post 10197793)
Interesting movement inbound in the next hour from across the pond:

N767MW (B762), GTI 7755 from Moline, IL.

Wonder what it's here for - maybe picking up the businessmen deposited by the Trump 757 that came in Fri with POTUS son Eck, who was playing a round (of golf!) at Menie.

Or related to The Open taking place at Carnoustie this week.

Im living in Davenport Iowa which is just over the river Mississippi. There is towns on Davenport,Moline,Rock island and .Bettendorf. They have all joined forces and made 1 airport which is named Quad cities. The longest flight each weekis a rotation to MCO.The rest of the services are all inter states. I cant remember when they did a international flight across the pond.Its a nice little airport with 6 airbridges which they don't use very often.The airport would be about the same size of ABZ TY for letting me post a little bit about our Quad cities airport.

Richard Taylor 17th Jul 2018 20:56

There may be trouble ahead..............
 
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotla...tland-44864612

5711N0205W 18th Jul 2018 14:17


Originally Posted by Richard Taylor (Post 10199130)

Which staff are in scope to strike and what potential operational impact might it have?

Richard Taylor 18th Jul 2018 16:58

3%
 
Strike averted>>>

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotla...tland-44871526

Richard Taylor 25th Jul 2018 06:18

I see in the VLM thread that they are binning Antwerp - Brum shortly. No idea on the figures for ABZ though.

Xavi22 25th Jul 2018 07:18


Originally Posted by Richard Taylor (Post 10205423)
I see in the VLM thread that they are binning Antwerp - Brum shortly. No idea on the figures for ABZ though.

From September they increased the prices for one-way pretty much, in August you can book for 59 EUR one-way, in September it starts at 212 EUR.

VickersVicount 25th Jul 2018 08:40

suspect it will be binned at some stage too.

Richard Taylor 25th Jul 2018 18:23

Red Arras in town. Maybe searching for a new home now RAF Scampton is being sold off.... plenty room here these days... :8

https://www.pressandjournal.co.uk/fp...rhead-tonight/

Should be displaying up at Peterhead about now.

Richard Taylor 29th Jul 2018 09:26

bmi
 
Some restoration of lost rotations rather than anything significant, but welcome nonetheless.

https://www.eveningexpress.co.uk/fp/...-destinations/

Richard Taylor 29th Jul 2018 09:35

MD's last interview
 
Carol Benzie was interviewed before she stepped down last week, & she said some very sobering but realistic things about trying to entice airlines to ABZ. Perhaps things we know already:

https://www.eveningexpress.co.uk/fp/...y-flying-high/

1. We - and the airport - still more or less wholly reliant on the oil price to increase business traffic (one wonders where the diversification is, eg. inbound tourism - we are still relying on the business offering);
2. Catchment area insufficient to expect routes to here, there & everywhere (& of course many airlines & routes have come & gone over the years);
3. Looks like the loss of Lufthansa was the biggest blow, but if things pick up again she doesn't rule out them returning some day.... I doubt it myself.

I know the things she said we all likely knew already, but I thought it was an interesting insight nevertheless.

Heathrow Harry 29th Jul 2018 09:38

"The simple fact is we don’t have enough people living here to justify a low-cost carrier coming in more than they do. They need to fill that aircraft to 96% plus every single time it flies, so in 200-seater aircraft you are looking at 180 people plus every time.We do try really hard but we are up against it as you have European airports all around the place pitching for an aircraft but they might have a population of two million within driving distance of the airport and we have only got 500,000.“It puts us way down the pecking order.”

AlbaAirNE 29th Jul 2018 18:40

Aberdeen doesn’t have the long term market for Ryanair at 189 seats, they have to juggle and run seasonal on destinations to keep things fresh and in demand.
As 73max and A321neo becomes the norm the ability to fill becomes more difficult @200+ and the aircraft efficiency cannot compensate enough, you then lose the carrier.
The saving for Aberdeen may be one or all the following:
C series / A220 = a right size very efficient aircraft that makes money on lengthy sectors at 125+ seats.
A Mid East carrier (Preferably Etihad or Qatar) coming in with A321LR.
US carrier (Jet Blue) to JFK with A321LR and connections into their network.

Ignoring Brexit and any freedom to travel issues that may arise.
Issue for the long term. In addition the O&G tied market is Aberdeen’s short runway, to me it’s a scandal that the full 300 yards wasn’t laid (it should have been 500) but the owners at the time - Heathrow Holdings - were never due conflict of interest going to let anybody fly any distance direct from Aberdeen other than to Tenerife.

OntimeexceptACARS 29th Jul 2018 22:02

Anyone have any pax numbers for recent months? Nothing on the official website.

Richard Taylor 30th Jul 2018 06:29

Seems the airport owners are keeping them from public view. Mind you I don't think AGS publish GLA figures either now. Read into that what you will. Fixed wing overall had been positive of late, but some routes and freqs have been lost since then.

Richard Taylor 2nd Aug 2018 16:54

Oh dear................
 
https://www.pressandjournal.co.uk/fp...ce-last-april/

https://www.pressandjournal.co.uk/fp...ast-last-year/

Loss of Lufthansa & Icelandair (Air Iceland) will take a toll for a while I would think. It's still oil or nothing...………..


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