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Asturias56 15th Dec 2018 12:30

I don't want to get into a slanging match with Always looking up but whilst it is true that "We have easy access to plenty of golf courses, castles and distilleries, as well as world renowned Royal Deeside and the Cairgorms." that's not how the rest of the UK, never mind the World - sees it. Looking at a map Aberdeen looks quite a ways from Cairngorm whereas Inverness looks much closer. then a lot of tourists want to do Edinburgh as well.

The other attractions aren't too much different from any other medium sized UK City - Dundee has a National (well,,, a branch of a National) Museum and ABZ? Not much TBH. Plus it's still an expensive place to stay or hire a car compared to other places in Scotland. It has no reputation as a foodie spot nor a clubbing center and I doubt you get many Hen parties heading there for the weekend.

It IS possible to turn a City round - Newcastle or Leeds anyone? - but it takes time. The best thing for Aberdeen would be to leverage the skills associated with the oil in things like business, IT and light engineering but I suspect that everyone takes the easy route when the oil price goes up and defaults back to working for the oil companies rather than looking for other business.......

LesPretend 17th Dec 2018 20:05

Don’t think there is any doubt that the city itself is on the up, but that’s not driving demand for air travel here just yet. You only have to look at the lack of replacements on the Frankfurt route to see that.

Will be interesting to to see what effect the bypass has. The traffic situation in Dundee might drive the affluent eastern suburbs and Angus travellers up to Aberdeen. TBH it’s an attractive option if you take the car, but daft as it may sound driving north to travel south is always difficult to get people’s head round regardless of how attractive it is.

Problem will be the default action of greed surrounding anything to do with ABZ. Parking will go up, fares will go up. Years of cashing in is difficult to let go of.


Asturias56 18th Dec 2018 13:59

Why would you drive from Dundee to ABZ and not GLA or EDI??

Is the bypass open over the river yet???

xraydice 18th Dec 2018 17:07


Originally Posted by Asturias56 (Post 10338483)
Why would you drive from Dundee to ABZ and not GLA or EDI??

Is the bypass open over the river yet???

Not yet, but was promised by Christmas ( but which one ) latest is maybe the end of the year , maybe.

Richard Taylor 18th Dec 2018 17:54

A few of my colleagues have been on the bypass & say it is excellent. However whether it tempts anyone up to the airport from Dundee direction I am rather more sceptical.

xraydice 20th Dec 2018 13:36

An update on the AWPR missing link, transport minister reports not my Christmas ," Boots on the bridge " recon end of Jan2019 if lucky.
As an aside, flew out of Inverness yesterday to London, from my home 30 mins north of ABZ the trip to Dalcros was 25 mins longer than to ABZ , but the whole experience was worth it smooth, pleasant and friendly

5711N0205W 30th Dec 2018 20:09

On the LCY now via NCL is there a requirement to de-plane in Newcastle or do you get to stay on board for the turnaround?

CabinCrewe 30th Dec 2018 20:20

oh that would really be the death of it if you had to get off in that short turn around

5711N0205W 31st Dec 2018 16:24

As it happens flybe are so much cheaper on the required dates than any other carrier that LHR T2 it is.

fjencl 3rd Jan 2019 12:24

Aberdeen airport bosses in talks to replace London flight...


https://www.eveningexpress.co.uk/fp/...ace-air-route/

Richard Taylor 3rd Jan 2019 17:59

“While we do not have a replacement at this moment in time, we are talking with airlines to find a positive solution.”

Hmmmmmm……………………………. :rolleyes:

CabinCrewe 3rd Jan 2019 18:18

Seems to be boom (and bust?) for Loganair so maybe they could squeeze yet another rotation out of an old Embraer?

Callum Johnstone 4th Jan 2019 06:27

With EZY off the route perhaps the economics for a return of a BA flight to LGW look more attractive.

M-JCS 4th Jan 2019 07:37


Originally Posted by CabinCrewe (Post 10350898)
Seems to be boom (and bust?) for Loganair so maybe they could squeeze yet another rotation out of an old Embraer?

Except that LGW fees make use of a small(ish) aircraft economically unfeasible. Recall that's what originally caused Flybe to leave LGW.

Richard Taylor 11th Jan 2019 06:26

FlyV
 
With the news breaking re Flybe/Stobart & Virgin, any potential knock-on effects for their ABZ base, or routes - good or bad?

Mister Geezer 11th Jan 2019 11:10

Well I personally can't see it as being bad for Aberdeen. It can only strengthen the longevity of keeping LHR going and reinforcing links to MAN. It remains to be seen just how hub centric the new business will be and hopefully not at the expense of still linking the regions.

I suspect airport management in the likes of CWL and DSA that are Embraer bases, will perhaps have more to give them concern about than their peers in ABZ, should a rethink result in the most capacity being focused on feeding the hubs.

BTW the Flybe brand will disappear and will become Connect Airways. The article in the link below repeatedly states that improving connectivity to Heathrow and Manchester will be paramount.

Business Traveller - Flybe brand to disappear as Virgin Atlantic and Stobart Group agree takeover

Jim__ 15th Jan 2019 08:46

KLM back up to 5 flights per day in May and June to Schipol, according to today's Evening Express.

An extra departure from ABZ at 12.40.

nighthawk117 15th Jan 2019 14:33


Originally Posted by Mister Geezer (Post 10357852)
BTW the Flybe brand will disappear and will become Connect Airways.

As per the article you linked to, it is to be called "Virgin Atlantic". Connect Airways is the legal business name, in the same way BA is owned by International Airlines Group.

CaptainDoony 15th Jan 2019 18:54


Originally Posted by Jim__ (Post 10361033)
KLM back up to 5 flights per day in May and June to Schipol, according to today's Evening Express.

An extra departure from ABZ at 12.40.

Also one of the daily 737-700 rotations being upgauged to a 737-800 so a bump in capacity there too

BAladdy 16th Jan 2019 05:31

T3 on 7th January made the following changes to the schedule for there there flights to MME and HUY.

Monday to Thursday

HUY - 3 x daily direct frequency has been replaced with a 2 x daily direct service and a daily frequency via MME. J41 aircraft has been replaced with a ER4

MME - 3 x daily J41 service has been replaced with a 2 x daily J41 and daily ER4 service.

Friday

HUY - 2 x daily direct frequency has been replaced with a daily direct service and a daily frequency via MME. J41 aircraft has been replaced with a ER4

MME - 2 x daily J41 service has been replaced with a daily J41 and daily ER4 service.

Sunday

HUY - S2000 op service via MME has been replaced with a direct AT7 operated service. Aircraft ops ABZ-HUY-NWI-HUY-ABZ

MME - S2000 replaced with a J41.


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