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LGS6753 11th Nov 2018 10:41


What is happening to (NO) Prospect House, the old Monarch headquarters building? It is surrounded by fencing. Who is going to take it on?
I seem to recall reading somewhere that it will be converted to a hotel.

LTNman 11th Nov 2018 16:40

That would require a planning application and none has gone in so far for change of use.

compton3bravo 13th Nov 2018 06:03

New Wizz route starts today - Kharkov second largest city in Ukraine.

danielson81 13th Nov 2018 16:55

Wonder how the Wizz route to Lviv is doing, now it faces competition from FR at STN? (and Kyiv to that effect, albeit different airports).

LTNman 13th Nov 2018 18:09

https://www.arup.com/projects/dart-london-luton-airport

Strange things are happening at the site of the terminal DART station. Instead of digging out the soil between the foundation columns a large part of it has been capped in concrete and then smoothed with a swirling machine to get a smooth finish. Now why would they want to do that I am thinking????

LTNman 14th Nov 2018 12:44

Always like a mystery. Photos shows a large area of concrete at the station site that should be a hole for a subterranean station. Speculation anyone?

https://i.imgur.com/85k1zi2.jpg

Falcon666 14th Nov 2018 12:58

LTNman
I think what you are looking at will eventually be a floor section of the station.
Rather than “ cut and cover “ this is more “ cover and dig”
I think you will find this section is on hydraulics allowing the underneath to be dug out, when this is done the whole section will be lowered to become the floor.
Possibly they will do this with another section using a digger and conveyor system to remove the soil.

Think we need Constuctors Input to confirm but it looks impressive.

LTNman 14th Nov 2018 13:12

Would have thought it would be easier to dig a hole and lay a floor. The interesting thing is that this is smooth concrete like found on the floors inside new homes so it would seem to indicate it is a floor. Also I didn't see any reinforcement rods being laid before the concrete was poured. Might have missed it but I don't think so. Also there is what looks like a small metal cover which can be seen in the photo and which looks like wet concrete. Wonder what that is for?

Also thinking we need input from Constructor.

Falcon666 14th Nov 2018 13:49

I am curious as to which way they will excavate, it’s looking like towards taxiway delta but I may be wrong.
Keep an eye out for a second section!
At least they will be able to work underground and not be exposed to the elements, could this be their thinking as winter is coming?

lfc84 14th Nov 2018 14:39

Why don't you go down there an ask them :-)

SWBKCB 14th Nov 2018 15:10

Well, the could tell him but then they'd have to.... :E

Actually, don't tell anybody but it's the new top secret bunker HQ for EZY's new mega-regional feeder airline created by taking over Flybe/Stobart/Loganair/BMIR :suspect:

(can't have this thread missing out on the BE frenzy! :ok:)

Falcon666 14th Nov 2018 15:21


Originally Posted by lfc84 (Post 10311129)
Why don't you go down there an ask them :-)

I live 50 miles away so I am curious but not that curious I would drive there.
Like many I rely on LTNman for the updates.

Constructor 15th Nov 2018 08:44

I have no details of this contract so here is my calculated guess. This layer of concrete appears to have been laid to a very high spec. I think it will be a temporary layer immediately under the roof slab. If so the next work will be to lay a membrane which will act as a debonding layer to the roof slab concrete. After the membrane will come the reinforcing bars, lots of them will be fixed. The roof slab thickness will be 800- 1000 mm thick. The roof slab will also act as a horizontal column holding up the piles. Piles, concrete or steel, can only hold up soil to about 3m deep freestanding. Over that depth you need propping, called temporary works. My guess is that this dig will be 7m deep. The structure being formed is a box or an n shape. Once the roof slab is formed excavation inside the box will occur including the concrete you can see today. A very efficient method of construction. The next few days will be interesting. Hope I am right.


Falcon666 15th Nov 2018 10:03

Constructor,
Many thanks for your input, looking forward to the updates from LTNman.

LTNman 15th Nov 2018 13:23

Noticed that at one end there is definitely a curve on the concrete. Today they seemed to be hand polishing it with some sort of material or cloth.

compton3bravo 15th Nov 2018 15:52

Over 1.5 million passengers passed through the airport in October a 7.9 per cent increase compared to October 2017. the

canberra97 15th Nov 2018 22:27


Originally Posted by lfc84 (Post 10311129)
Why don't you go down there an ask them :-)

Yes that's exactly what I would do at least you would get a better idea as to what is happening rather than guessing.

As much I enjoy the updates and photos provided by LTNman and I really do honestly and I'm under the impression that he is local to LTN and I'm not sure if he actually works at the airport but the amount of time that he does spend at the airport taking photos personally I would be asking for as much information as possible from the contractors onsite regarding developments at the airport rather than making wild guesses.

There has to be an actual reason behind the laying of this concrete!

Go on LTNman next time your at the airport doing your next photo update go down and ask the contractors what's going on, because we all want to know now :-)

Buster the Bear 15th Nov 2018 22:38

Oh and whilst you are at it, a comment from the airport operator about Taxiway Foxtrot :)

LTNman 16th Nov 2018 04:21

Easier said than done. There are 5 sets of contractors working at Luton who are working on 4 major projects. Then there are the dozens of subcontractors who are all doing their own thing so it is not always straight forward who is doing what. The projects are being carried out behind secure fences or in the case of the DART behind hordings. I am inclined not to loiter around a turnstile for long periods like a roving reporter hoping that I speak to an individual who has an oversight of the big picture.

Saying that I do actually have a senior contact for the principal contractor so I will send him an email and ask the question.

As for the rest of the DART outside the airport boundary work has recently started on the earthworks for the bridge that will cross the A1081 on the Parkway side. The steelwork for the bridge will be assembled on a pocket of land opposite the Ibis hotel and then taken to site. The span will be 72m long as it will have to cross a dual carriageway and at the same time the beginnings of the sliproad to the airport which is also two lanes.

Also I only take photos when I am in the mood and when there are enough changes to warrant them. With so much going on at the moment the frequency has gone up so it is a bit of a balancing act not to over do them here.

Finally guessing is half the fun so just think of it as a rumour.









compton3bravo 16th Nov 2018 11:49

Seems I was a bit premature about the Blue air Larnaca flights for summer 2019. Now showing four weekly but no sign of Turin flights for next summer.


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