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LGS6753 18th Oct 2018 20:51

Buster - the debt per head of population is £2,750, not £2.75m

LTNman - interest rates depend on when the loans were taken out. If you remember, interest rates were at 15% in the early 90s, 6% in the mid-noughties and at their current levels only since about 2010.

LTNman 19th Oct 2018 07:32


Buster - the debt per head of population is £2,750, not £2.75m
Add the cost of the borrowings for the dart at £225m and a more realistic price tag of around £1bn for a new airport attached to the existing runway and the money borrowed works out close to £17,000 per household.

jamessh 19th Oct 2018 14:53

Silverjet Terminal
 
Hi all,

This might be a bit off the topic but I was just wondering,

- What ever happened to the private terminal when Silverjet went under. Is it empty? If it is occupied who is doing what?

- While very unlikely if another premium airline ever came knocking where do you think would be the best place to set up a similar operation to the Silverjet terminal. By this I mean empty space (not anywhere that would require a new building.)

obviously never going to happen, just thought it would be interesting to hear your opinions.

Thanks,

james

toledoashley 19th Oct 2018 15:38

Wasn’t the SilverJet terminal converted to the temporary arrivals.

LGS6753 23rd Oct 2018 16:26

Sun Express S19:

Mon D0025 Izmir XQ885 1006-2110
Mon A1140 Antalya XQ530 0605-2810
Mon D1240 Antalya XQ531 0605-2810
Tue A1315 Izmir XQ884 1106-2409
Tue D1415 Bodrum XQ885 1106-2409
Tue A2325 Bodrum XQ631 1106-2409
Wed D0025 Izmir XQ885 1206-2509
Wed A2015 Gaziantep XQ742-2310
Wed D2125 Gaziantep XQ743 1206-2310
Thu A1640 Ankara XQ740 1306-2609
Thu D1750 Ankara XQ741 1306-2609
Fri A1140 Antalya XQ530 0305-2510
Fri D1240 Antalya XQ531 0305-2510
Sun A1315 Izmir XQ884 0906-2010
Sun D1415 Bodrum XQ631 0906-2010
Sun A2325 Bodrum XQ632 0906-2010

pabely 23rd Oct 2018 18:30


Originally Posted by LGS6753 (Post 10290463)
Sun Express S19:

Mon D0025 Izmir XQ885 1006-2110
Mon A1140 Antalya XQ530 0605-2810
Mon D1240 Antalya XQ531 0605-2810
Tue A1315 Izmir XQ884 1106-2409
Tue D1415 Bodrum XQ885 1106-2409
Tue A2325 Bodrum XQ631 1106-2409
Wed D0025 Izmir XQ885 1206-2509
Wed A2015 Gaziantep XQ742-2310
Wed D2125 Gaziantep XQ743 1206-2310
Thu A1640 Ankara XQ740 1306-2609
Thu D1750 Ankara XQ741 1306-2609
Fri A1140 Antalya XQ530 0305-2510
Fri D1240 Antalya XQ531 0305-2510
Sun A1315 Izmir XQ884 0906-2010
Sun D1415 Bodrum XQ631 0906-2010
Sun A2325 Bodrum XQ632 0906-2010

So are those additional post 23:00 slots or what they had this summer?

ClearLand08 23rd Oct 2018 20:42

By my records it will be 1 less rotation than this year, where there were 2 x weekly Ankara flights (Tue & Sun).

LTNman 24th Oct 2018 20:03


Originally Posted by toledoashley (Post 10287155)
Wasn’t the SilverJet terminal converted to the temporary arrivals.

The temporary arrivals entrance was indeed the entrance to Silverjet. Their terminal basically became an airside staff access route and now it is being converted to an extended baggage hall. In fact I think part of it became the newly opened domestic reclaim area.

pabely 25th Oct 2018 18:28

So Northolt confirmed closure next year for 6 months, going to be busy!

22/04 25th Oct 2018 18:43

If Luton has space. Some traffic to Farnborough, Stansted and maybe even Southend and Cranfield?

dvc 26th Oct 2018 01:08

Stands 46 and 61 should be back in operation.

compton3bravo 26th Oct 2018 08:22

If you are doing business in Milton Keynes/North London areas I doubt very much you would want to be flying into Southend. Cranfield, Luton or Oxford yes. Unfortunately two of those do not have 24 hours opening. The two stands back in operation would be taken up by the two extra Ryanair aircraft I would have thought.

pabely 26th Oct 2018 11:16


Originally Posted by compton3bravo (Post 10292898)
If you are doing business in Milton Keynes/North London areas I doubt very much you would want to be flying into Southend. Cranfield, Luton or Oxford yes. Unfortunately two of those do not have 24 hours opening. The two stands back in operation would be taken up by the two extra Ryanair aircraft I would have thought.

I'm sure users of Northolt do so because of it's location, it is only open from 08:00 to 20:00 Mon - Fri, limited hours at weekend and up to 20 civilian movements a day so traffic would not be affected by any other airport opening hours. If you are visiting say The Queen or a Corporate Head Office in West London, why would you go to Southend! :} Luton, Farnborough or Oxford yes. If you wanted to land in London at 3AM in the Summer then yes Southend as there are zero other options.

LGS6753 26th Oct 2018 18:57

ACL's W18 start of season analysis shows:

Doubling of movements (v W17) by European Air Transport (DHL)
20% increase by MNG
Additional 2 aircraft from Ryanair
50% increase from Tarom
People's Viennaline operating twice weekly to Altenrhein Jan-Mar
20% increase from TUI, including Chambery (ex-Titan), Paphos and Hurghada
Halving of Vueling flights with Florence & Barcelona dropped.
25% increase from Wizzair overall, with Wizzair Hungary reducing and Wizzair UK increasing.
Titan dropping Chambery.

All overnight stands allocated.
Night quotas introduced for winter, reducing capacity between midnight and 0700.
Capacity of an additional 1,000,000 seats.
EasyJet starting a new daily service from March (undisclosed)

davidjohnson6 26th Oct 2018 20:17

People's Vienna line has been rumoured to be looking at London for a while but after their route to Cologne was closed I never thought they would even look at London

Assuming People's really do operate to London and don't just hand the slots back...
People's offer a high level of service in return for a high fare. I am surprised they would choose Luton rather than (for example) London City

Falcon666 27th Oct 2018 14:17

https://www.acl-uk.org/wp-content/up...SOS-Report.pdf

Here is the link for anyone interested.

Interested to see what the new Easyjet route will be. Most recent new routes from them have tended to be 2/3/4 weekly (Gibraltar and Krakow being the latest)
Daily indicates the route will be popular

pabely 27th Oct 2018 17:06

TUI
 

20% increase from TUI, including Chambery (ex-Titan), Paphos and Hurghada
I thought TUI have already dropped Hurghada?

AirportPlanner1 28th Oct 2018 12:08


Originally Posted by davidjohnson6 (Post 10293363)
Assuming People's really do operate to London and don't just hand the slots back...
People's offer a high level of service in return for a high fare. I am surprised they would choose Luton rather than (for example) London City

I suspect this would be linked to skiing and operate at weekends, so LCY would be of little use. Nonetheless, I would also expect it to be on sale by now so I reckon it can be discounted.

LTNman 29th Oct 2018 11:17

Construction update
 
Sheets to be piled are being placed into position by the fire station for the DART
https://i.imgur.com/DlKxpUq.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/ayc7HN8.jpg

Meanwhile on the other side of the tunnel the embankment is being cut away for the temporary road diversion.
https://i.imgur.com/x9PKAK1.jpg

Work on Taxiway Foxtrot is now well under way
https://i.imgur.com/g6Z8rJU.jpg

Site of the new station
https://i.imgur.com/Zu9lH4a.jpg

Another section over covered bus station has opened
https://i.imgur.com/0ABsTyx.jpg

Both builders compounds that occupied stands on the Eastern and Northern Aprons have now gone
https://i.imgur.com/ZHysZx9.jpg

cj241101 29th Oct 2018 11:44

Stand 46 was already back in use by yesterday, not sure about 61 although it seems to have ground equipment on site in the above photo.


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