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LTNman 29th Mar 2019 21:38


Originally Posted by southside bobby (Post 10433671)
Reality here indicates with it now also being highlighted by current development that the site Luton Airport sits on is severely constrained in geographic/topographic/political/social & slot terms.

It appears LTN will max out shortly at the 18mppa limit albeit slightly higher with planning tweaks perhaps.

They will add a further 4 million within the existing boundary in around 18 months to 2 years and award themselves planning permission to increase the total as there is a cap. A constraint is night time restrictions. We will have to wait and see if they try to increase that figure.

22/04 30th Mar 2019 18:07


It has been noted on several occasions that the high class top end shops never have anyone in them apart from staff while the likes of WH Smiths and the new Boots are really busy.
I know - but the margin on lots of their goods is enormous so they don't have to. The perfume that I typically pay £75 for as a nice bring home present for my daughter probably costs at most only a few pounds to produce.

Buster the Bear 31st Mar 2019 12:06

Maybe I am daft? I thought consultation was still open on the new road to Tinminal 2, sorry I meant Century Park? How can it have gained planning permission? Mr Confused Bear.

LTNman 31st Mar 2019 15:28

Buster is correct. Comments to be read out at the planning meeting are open until April 11th but we are talking about Luton Borough Council who don’t need to hear any evidence because it is council policy to build these roads. Also it is worth pointing out that the application was in complete beach of the Local Plan that was only adopted 18 months ago.

it wouldn’t surprise me if Lee Baker Street was on the planning committee.

LTNman 3rd Apr 2019 10:37

I randomly looked at the departure board and noticed these 10 Ryanair arrivals. Think Luton has 6 based aircraft now??? so 4 ( edit) must be non Luton based.
15:25, Lanzarote
15:25 Copenhagen
15:55 Tenerife
16:05 Athens
17:05 Bologna
17:10 Cork
17:15 Faro
17:15 Dublin
18:25 Genona
19:10 Malta

FFHKG 3rd Apr 2019 10:52

Why on a W pattern? Ryanair has based aircraft in at least half those destinations.

LTNman 3rd Apr 2019 11:27

Yes spot on, wrong description used

22/04 3rd Apr 2019 12:03

Look for the outbounds that go back to the same destinations half an hour later. Faro, Gerona, most likely

pabely 3rd Apr 2019 12:54

Don't think it has been reported before, Wizz going up to daily on Keflavík from end of May.

LTNman 4th Apr 2019 21:15

No1 Lounges is opening a lounge at Luton in July

LGS6753 6th Apr 2019 09:30

Now that the original Brexit day has passed, EasyJet and Wizzair seem to have separated out their UK/European operations. Most EasyJet flights using Luton are now flown with UK registered aircraft and using the EZY flight code. Some flights from EU destinations are operated by Austrian registered aircraft, carrying EJU codes and callsign Alpine.
Similarly, Wizzair UK flights are operated using G- registered aircraft and W9/WUK codes, whereas most Wizzair flights use the Hungarian registered fleet and W6/WZZ codes. There is some crossover, but not much.
All Ryanair flights still use FR code and Irish-registered fleet (not even sure if any aircraft are G- registered).

davidjohnson6 6th Apr 2019 09:47

Ryanair UK has one 737 as G-RUKA

pabely 6th Apr 2019 14:04


Originally Posted by davidjohnson6 (Post 10440596)
Ryanair UK has one 737 as G-RUKA

It is currently STN based.

LGS6753 7th Apr 2019 11:26

Today has seen the first Level flight, on the morning Amsterdam service previously operated by Vueling. Upgrade from A320 to A321.

Falcon666 8th Apr 2019 14:57


compton3bravo 8th Apr 2019 16:00

That is some figure considering Easter was in March last year. It might not have a very good reputation but it doesn't seem to stop people using it.

nt639 8th Apr 2019 16:13


Originally Posted by compton3bravo (Post 10442517)
That is some figure considering Easter was in March last year. It might not have a very good reputation but it doesn't seem to stop people using it.

Probably due to March 2018 having lots of cancellations due to “The Beast from the East”? Which would account for the uplift

LTNman 8th Apr 2019 19:37

It is a mystery that over 3 months after the terminal was meant to be completed it still isn’t completed although the airport claim it is. All that has happened is that the builders seem to have disappeared.

It is the little things like the Blueair and Easyjet ticket counters are still using temporary structures. Just two of many examples of a long list.

Falcon666 8th Apr 2019 20:41


Originally Posted by LTNman (Post 10442694)

It is the little things like the Blueair and Easyjet ticket counters are still using temporary structures. Just two of many examples of a long list.

Passed through last month and the staff on one of the ticket counters said they were told work would continue this month and they would move in in May. Guess we shall see.

Buster the Bear 8th Apr 2019 21:47

https://www.hmgaerospace.com/news/la...-on-the-level/

pabely 10th Apr 2019 22:25

Looks like the new mainline franchise operator will run 2 trains per hour into parkway, if it gets awarded.

WilliumMate 11th Apr 2019 01:59


Originally Posted by pabely (Post 10444618)
Looks like the new mainline franchise operator will run 2 trains per hour into parkway, if it gets awarded.

Abellio, supported by the Dutch government, takes over the MML franchise in August.


Falcon666 11th Apr 2019 20:59

https://infrastructure.planninginspe...pcsection=docs

For anybody interested there is a 509 page scoping report in with the planning inspectorate.

Some of the content as follows

New Terminal Apron approx 680 x 280 mtrs
Fuel to Apron via hydrant system from new fuel farm connected to existing pipeline east of airport.
4,000,000m3 Earthworks for new site
500,000m3 Landfill removed
New Terminal 40,000m2 possibly two or three storey
34 New stands on Apron. 23 connected by Piers
11 Stands for Code E Aircraft
New Terminal to have same MSCP and drop off facilities as current planned MSCP2
Off site car parks at Parkway and Vauxhall Trailerpark to become MSCPs and either be multi use or staff for connection via DART to Airport
If approved new terminal to be open and accepting 7 Mil pax by 2027.

Various road interchanges planned

What is interesting is a planned boundary change that includes a piece of land becoming under airport control right at the end of 26 ( big enough for a nice little extension)

compton3bravo 12th Apr 2019 07:20

easy keeping Gibraltar at two weekly for winter 2019-20 with Stockholm finishing at the end of the summer season. Wizz anybody?

LTNman 12th Apr 2019 12:14


Originally Posted by Falcon666 (Post 10445503)
https://infrastructure.planninginspe...pcsection=docs

For anybody interested there is a 509 page scoping report in with the planning inspectorate.

So the council expects the concessionaire to pay off £300m in existing loans, pay for the above and pay a per passenger concession fee. They also expect no issues in an expanded Luton getting aircraft into already crowded airspace over London where aircraft sit on the runway at Luton waiting for a gap.


Buster the Bear 12th Apr 2019 23:18

What next, lift the night jet ban��

ClearLand08 14th Apr 2019 19:20

Summer 2019 schedule
 
I spent a few hours this afternoon putting together my usual summer schedule summary using airline booking websites - this is what it's looking like for Monday, 8th July 2019:
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....21d3d890b9.jpg
A few stats (with numbers from the same day last year in brackets):
40 (38) based aircraft - easyJet 24 (24), Wizzair 9 (8), Ryanair 6 (4) and TUI 1 (2)
360 (338) movements - easyJet 156 (156), Wizzair 136 (114), Ryanair 44 (32) and others 24 (36) - SunExpress, TUI, Level, Vueling and BlueAir

LTNman 15th Apr 2019 12:54

Construction update
 
April marks the first anniversary of the official start of the Dart project between the railway station and the terminal. The Dart route is being dug out through the approach lights to runway 08. A signature bridge will cross the airport approach road at this point
https://i.imgur.com/eRSPk0R.jpg.

Work on the construction site for the steelwork for the bridge has seen foundations being laid to support the bridge. Once complete it will be transported to its final location.
https://i.imgur.com/q67RLAD.jpg

Meanwhile by Taxiway Bravo the path of the route can clearly be seen.
https://i.imgur.com/J1RKKAG.jpg

Work has started on the construction to temporarily move Taxiway Bravo to the edge of the existing road tunnel
https://i.imgur.com/expPmij.jpg

The lift shafts for the second multistory are going in
https://i.imgur.com/9rgm7bT.jpg

The multistory has now reached its southern edge but is still to be made wider as it will butt up to the road when complete. Concrete is now being poured in some sections.
https://i.imgur.com/ckRPCV4.jpg

Work continues on the new parallel taxiway and de-icing pads.
https://i.imgur.com/ibgVRlJ.jpg

pabely 15th Apr 2019 18:17

Reybridge, in part of their work doing Foxtrot, the lighting will be LEDs with this being rolled out throughout other taxiways. Suppose with current summer restrictions then the opportunity arose to do the whole job and reduce running costs.
Along with reduced NEO noice footprints will the summer restictions really be indefinite to quieter aircraft?

LTNman 15th Apr 2019 18:45

As Buster has hinted LLAOL has submitted a planning application to the airport owner (the council) to increase both day and night noise limits as LLAOL can't meet them. When approved (because it will happen) overnight biz jets will return for the summer months from next year.

Buster the Bear 15th Apr 2019 18:59


Originally Posted by LTNman (Post 10448234)
As Buster has hinted LLAOL has submitted a planning application to the airport owner (the council) to increase both day and night noise limits as LLAOL can't meet them. When approved (because it will happen) overnight biz jets will return for the summer months from next year.

A move that no doubt will go down well with local residents, well assuming they know of course!

LTNman 15th Apr 2019 19:52

They know and so do other councils who are not best pleased.

PAXboy 15th Apr 2019 23:25

What the 9insert word of choice) is a 'signature' bridge??

LTNman 16th Apr 2019 06:13

A signature bridge is a bridge that makes a statement but is now being described as an asymmetric structure and a gateway bridge which will be back lit with LED's. The ski slope is meant to represent an aircraft taking off. Luton has a long history of not building to artists impressions so we will see what the airport ends up with.

https://knightarchitects.co.uk/proje...luton-gateway/

Photo of the Parkway station construction site at the bottom of this link.

https://dart.llal.org.uk/

https://i.imgur.com/PI1yoop.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/kgNSkmR.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/Xps5hgo.jpg

pabely 17th Apr 2019 18:37

El Al
 
They celebrated their 1 millionth pax on Tuesday from Luton and up 19 departures per week this summer!

LTNman 18th Apr 2019 18:15

I see there was another false fire alarm and a photo of passengers pressed against the outside of the terminal as they have nowhere to go. Anyone remember when the bus caught fire at Stansted? Just hope that doesn't happen at Luton.

https://www.itv.com/news/anglia/2019...ort-evacuated/

pabely 18th Apr 2019 20:23

And on a lighter note, victorious European Football Champions returned home through Luton Airport yesterday after winning in Germany. LTFC Under 8s that is!

compton3bravo 19th Apr 2019 07:16

I see both Tromso and Verona on sale by Wizz for winter 2019-20. Some prices for Tromso are already quite steep not so Verona. Regarding football if both Chelsea and Arsenal reach the final of the Europa League it is being held in Baku Azerbaijan on Wednesday 29 May there is going to be a real scramble for aircraft across Europe with the Champions League final being held on the Saturday in Madrid with both Liverpool and Tottenham having a chance to reach the final.

toledoashley 19th Apr 2019 07:47

It was quite the same with Kiev last year (?). Although probably fair to say that in normal conditions Baku is going to be quite a lot harder without charters. Wasn’t there a SAA charter from LPL last year?

pabely 19th Apr 2019 13:33

If Spurs get through, just before the summer night ban!


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