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davidjohnson6 25th Aug 2020 14:22

The EU may no longer have influence over Gatwick.... but what would Gatwick management and shareholders want ? While they may be reluctant to be too nasty to Easyjet/BA/Virgin as long standing customers, they will also be heavily focused on airlines which will operate flights and bringing in revenues. I suppose in theory BA/Easyjet could pay a pile of cash to Gatwick in lieu of airport usage fees, but this might contravene (or be seen to contravene) various rules against bribery / corruption

LTNman 25th Aug 2020 14:27

Use or lose. If the airlines are reluctant to to get Gatwick back on its feet then step aside.

davidjohnson6 25th Aug 2020 14:29

Be careful about wishing Wizzair opens a 20 aircraft base - Luton might end up shrinking...

AirportPlanner1 25th Aug 2020 14:36


Originally Posted by LTNman (Post 10870207)
Hopefully the UK loses its last ties with damaging EU regulations on December 31st so their interference with Gatwick should end.

Those “damaging EU regulations” are what allowed Luton and most other airports to flourish in the first place so you really should be careful what you wish for

LTNman 25th Aug 2020 14:52

Free markets not stifling regulations. If Luton loses part of its Wizz operation to Gatwick then so be it but Wizz has hinted in the article that while Eastern Europeans are not fussy where they land Brits prefer Gatwick so there would be two different markets Wizz would target.

pabely 27th Aug 2020 18:04

Can't remember if it has been reported before, but Wizzair are stopping seasonal Split route early in mid-september and employing that aircraft to add capacity to Portugal.

LTNman 2nd Sep 2020 04:23

A couple of weeks ago the Council wanted to discuss £83m of Council loans to their airport company LLAL to stave off bankruptcy in closed session. This from a Council that claims it is open and transparent. The opposition group voted the closed session down and wanted the meeting held in public, as airport directors, who also sit on the scrutiny committee could not vote. The decision was deferred so the ruling group brought in zombie councillors to replace those directors who could not vote. It was then voted through that the meeting would be held in secret.

This Council has much to hide, all of the meetings of London Luton Airport Ltd, which is made up of councillor directors are held in secret even though it is just a committee of the Council. Many of Luton’s councillors from the ruling party come across as being uneducated and just do as they are told. The power is actually held by a handful of people who are not even councillors fronted by a Council leader that lost the plot years ago.


https://www.lutontoday.co.uk/news/po...rivate-2958505

Dannyboy39 2nd Sep 2020 05:27

I didn’t realise directors of LLAL were actually councillors directly appointed to the board (although I suppose this makes sense as it’s council owned). One of which I know for a fact has absolutely zero experience in aviation or being on a BoD. Is it too much to ask to have a BoD that actually has industry experience?

LTNman 2nd Sep 2020 06:56

It is only in the last few months after a complaint was made about conflicts of interest that airport directors don’t vote on airport matters at other meetings. In February the directors helped vote down a proposal that the airport pays for a local parking scheme needed due to holidaymakers using local roads to park their cars. They no doubt agreed this policy at one of their secret meetings.


inOban 2nd Sep 2020 08:47

If you Google Local Government Investigations you will find that there are national bodies charged with investigating possible malfeasance. I suggest that you make them aware of your concerns.

Mr @ Spotty M 3rd Sep 2020 11:03

Well it didn't take long did it.:ugh:
Health officials are trying to trace more than 200 Wizz Air passengers after authorities failed to alert the airline that eight travellers on a flight had tested positive for coronavirus, according to reports.
The Guardian reports that eight teenagers from Hampshire were diagnosed after flying to Luton with Wizz Air from Crete on August 25.

LTNman 3rd Sep 2020 12:49

Depending on what time they landed they would have been in long queues for Border Force. One thing is for sure there would be no one enforcing the wearing of masks or social distancing at Luton but that would be the same as any airport.

https://i.imgur.com/fNgSkhJ.jpg

pabely 3rd Sep 2020 23:39

Co-Op for Lu2on!

LTNman 4th Sep 2020 04:04

With the greatest of respect I fail to see what a new shop at the bottom of a block of flats has to do with the airport.

pabely 4th Sep 2020 06:28

You tell the marketing team of the project holders that, it's proximity to access to Parkway/DART does make location attractive.

LTNman 4th Sep 2020 09:22

I was going to do a Dart construction update today but nothing has fundamentally changed since the last two dated August 2nd and August 16th so nothing is worthy of a photo.

Work seems to be progressing very slowly and might be down to the emergency cash injection the project needs, which is due to a £18m overspend, as the council has yet to cough up.

Looking at the time-line of completion date targets, the build was meant to be finished in the first week of June. The installation of the Dart equipment is meant to be finished at the end of this month when train testing is meant to begin for an April 2021 opening. That is clearly not going to happen so I am guessing the project is at least 6 months behind schedule and maybe more.

Once it is open will there be enough income to clear the £243 debt and its day to day running costs? At the moment the shuttle bus operation is run by Thameslink at no cost to LLAL or the Council. The prospect is that the Dart will actually have to be subsidised by the Council taxpayers who will never use it and who are already being hammered by airport loses and airport debts.

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Teaboy24 4th Sep 2020 09:31

Looking at SunExpress website, they seem to have a short series of weekly flights this December/January to Izmir with connections to other locations in Turkey.

LTNman 4th Sep 2020 20:42

July stats

https://www.london-luton.co.uk/Londo...1028fc692a.pdf

Luton will be either the second or third busiest airport in the U.K. for passenger volumes for July depending on the Stansted figures. Strange times we live in.

Update. Stansted 468,318 July, 10,000 more than Luton

pabely 4th Sep 2020 23:06

I wonder how the ATMs compare vs STN, might give a insight of average load factor.

Buster the Bear 7th Sep 2020 12:03

Well I never........

https://www.internationalairportrevi...accreditation/


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