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SARF 11th Aug 2019 21:01

The escalation,of the language is amusing . How can Luton council declare a ‘climate emergency’ when, in reality it’s raining and there is some local flooding .. Its a bit like network rail declaring electricity catastrophe when there is a power outage in Epping

PAXboy 11th Aug 2019 23:48

They could because 'weather' and 'climate' are two different things. Although, of course, they won't.
As you were.

dvc 15th Aug 2019 12:05

First one through Foxtrot
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....1065efc4d6.jpg

pabely 17th Aug 2019 06:55


Originally Posted by LTNman (Post 10532304)
The second multi story which was having parking sold from August 19th has had that date dropped. There has been zero prospect of that car park being finished for a long time. At the time of writing not even the ramps have had concrete poured yet.

Airports own web site say it will open next week!

Falcon666 17th Aug 2019 10:17


Originally Posted by LTNman (Post 10540034)

MS1 is being clad. The first multi story to be completed is called MS2
https://i.imgur.com/0E2S9DL.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/jcZ6dTC.jpg

According to the Airport website it’s the other more logical way around( first MSCP will be called MSCP1)

The opening of the second MSCP is important as this will now allow the closing off of the section of the mid term car park to enable the starting on the next section of the DART.
I am guessing only a couple of floors will be open next week as the ground floor drop off area will take longer to finish due to road realignments.

LTNman 19th Aug 2019 13:57

Remarkable scenes were witnessed today as the passenger footbridge from the existing multi story was having its walls and ceilings washed. This is the first time this has happened as the bridge was handed over by the builders without being cleaned and was filthy and grime ridden on day one of its opening in 2016.

I had a close look at the second multi story which was meant to open today. Still think this opening is a few days away and when it does open only the 1st and maybe the 2nd floors will open. Both these floors have had the parking bays painted in with the top floors are still receiving concrete.

The main core containing lifts is still being clad, contains no windows and has a temporary roof made out of nailed down plastic. Looking through the windowless openings the lifts still seem to be boarded up.

The exit route from the down ramp onto the ring road has no road markings and no give way signs have yet appeared. The pillars on the ramp have only been part painted with some untouched so it will be challenging to paint these if the ramp is opened to traffic.

While the hoarding has been removed that will access the new multi story the temporary route to the lifts and staircase has yet to be boarded. This is giving a view of where those that are paying premium money for valet parking are having their cars parked which is in the middle of a building site on what will be the drop off area. With the air thick with dust I am wondering if the cars are washed before being handed back over.

Falcon666 20th Aug 2019 18:49

https://mediahub.london-luton.co.uk/...rvice?ref=Home

Didn’t get the four per hour they wanted but I guess it’s a start.

Also a NOTAM is out for taxiway Bravo realignment, starting this Thursday.

LTNman 21st Aug 2019 05:21

Luton will end up with 2 express, 4 semi fast and 2 all stopper services per hour, total 8 trains per hour.

The issue for passengers departing St Pancras is do they use the high level platforms for the half hourly non stop service or the underground platforms for the 4 trains an hour semi fast service. In many cases the semi fast option will still be quicker as there will be less platform waiting.

As stated the airport and council were lobbying for 4 express trains per hour so got half of what they wanted which will be a disappointment for them. Also unless things change with a change of franchise, group saver tickets are not accepted on non stop services to and from St Pancras.

LTNman 21st Aug 2019 21:40

Seems Luton is keeping open its existing de-icing spots on the south stands giving a total of 7 locations where aircraft can be de-iced with their engines running. Luton has apparently the largest de-icing facility in the UK for engine running de-icing.

LTNman 22nd Aug 2019 05:19

East Midland Railways are buying a second hand fleet of what will be nearly 20 year old Siemens Class 360 trains from Greater Anglia Railways to serve Luton Airport for its express train service to Parkway that will continue to Corby.

The trains will only have 4 carriages although they can be joined to make 8 car sets. We will have to see what happens but a 4 car set could well suffer from overcrowding if airport passengers start to use the service in numbers.

AirportPlanner1 22nd Aug 2019 07:57

Wizz are to move the LTN-Sibiu route to SEN from the end of October. They are also launching SEN-Bucharest and Vilnius.

Expressflight 22nd Aug 2019 08:02


Originally Posted by LTNman (Post 10551274)
East Midland Railways are buying a second hand fleet of what will be nearly 20 year old Siemens Class 360 trains from Greater Anglia Railways to serve Luton Airport for its express train service to Parkway that will continue to Corby.
The trains will only have 4 carriages although they can be joined to make 8 car sets. We will have to see what happens but a 4 car set could well suffer from overcrowding if airport passengers start to use the service in numbers.


Having often travelled on those very trains I don't recall much dedicated baggage space.

1sky 22nd Aug 2019 08:12


Originally Posted by AirportPlanner1 (Post 10551377)
Wizz are to move the LTN-Sibiu route to SEN from the end of October. They are also launching SEN-Bucharest and Vilnius.

Interesting move. I am wondering why Sibiu got picked.

gilesdavies 22nd Aug 2019 10:29


Originally Posted by 1sky (Post 10551389)
Interesting move. I am wondering why Sibiu got picked.

They have however also announced a daily service to Vienna and twice weekly service to Castellon in Spain from Luton.

Vienna is another they'll be competing directly with easyJet on!

https://www.businesstraveller.com/bu...ndon-southend/

Lee Baker Street 22nd Aug 2019 10:32

Sibiu
 

Originally Posted by 1sky (Post 10551389)


Interesting move. I am wondering why Sibiu got picked.

Wizzair carry around 100,000 pax a year on that route at LTN. It makes no sense to drop the service.

PDXCWL45 22nd Aug 2019 10:36


Originally Posted by Lee Baker Street (Post 10551544)


Wizzair carry around 100,000 pax a year on that route at LTN. It makes no sense to drop the service.

Unless they got a better offer from SEN to operate it there.

Spanish eyes 22nd Aug 2019 11:07

That will upset the council as they promote the building of a second terminal.


Wizzair carry around 100,000 pax a year on that route at LTN. It makes no sense to drop the service.
Remember Waterford when that ended up at Southend the passengers did not follow. Might be different now if there are no alternate routes.

LTNman 22nd Aug 2019 11:29

Construction update
 
Gateway bridge for the Dart is being prepared for the concrete tracks.
https://i.imgur.com/sW7WX5U.jpg

Taxiway Bravo diversion has opened which will allow the existing taxiway to be dug out for the Dart tunnel.
https://i.imgur.com/aY4A1Ch.jpg

As reported before the multistory car park numbering has been reversed. The new car park which has now opened is Car Park 2.
Photo shows the foot entrance with the first floor ramp that connects to the ring road just forward of the netting which is protecting a missing section of the first floor.
https://i.imgur.com/KHgxBgj.jpg

The car park has opened with no working lifts. Due to the height of the ceiling of the drop off area passengers are having to lug suitcases up 4 flights of stairs to reach the first floor. The staircases are half the width of the other multistory and seem to be built as just a fire escape. All windows have been boarded up due to a lack of window frames and glass.
https://i.imgur.com/5EGVIsL.jpg

Only the first floor is open
https://i.imgur.com/uY00MMY.jpg

The pay barriers are on the first floor
https://i.imgur.com/hFWQVj5.jpg

AirportPlanner1 22nd Aug 2019 11:46


Originally Posted by Spanish eyes (Post 10551581)
Remember Waterford when that ended up at Southend the passengers did not follow. Might be different now if there are no alternate routes.

Sibiu is not Waterford, and times have moved on. Waterford moved over prematurely before the new terminal was open. It required a bus transfer from the old terminal to Rochford Station. Perhaps if they’d held back a year things would have been different. Routes and airlines at SEN have come and gone but ventures towards the east of Europe have been highly successful to date, certainly in terms of passenger numbers. I have no reason to doubt Sibiu would be any different.

G-AZUK 22nd Aug 2019 13:09


The issue for passengers departing St Pancras is do they use the high level platforms for the half hourly non stop service or the underground platforms for the 4 trains an hour semi fast service. In many cases the semi fast option will still be quicker as there will be less platform waiting
Same kind of Dilemma going south at Victoria where you can get the Southern or the Gatwick express.
My guess is airport passengers will naturally gravitate to the 'express' service as they do at Gatwick, without realising the same TOC operates a far cheaper 2 stop service, its just painted green and has a different platform.


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