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N707ZS 31st Oct 2016 23:40

YES, it was very foggy for a bit this morning!

jamesgrainge 1st Nov 2016 08:35


Originally Posted by highwideandugly (Post 9562560)
I know the plan is to expand,develop and increase services from DTV. But,HEY. Are PEEL. Actually going to do anything about the provision of ATC services at the airport?? Rumour has it ...it won't get any better!!!

Now that's a great way to develop services ,availability and reputation??:ugh:

CO et al might be cringing..but come on.....!!

ATC service is there all day every day as far as I can tell? The CTR caters for the needs of the traffic, class G airspace both sides is basic service and IFR traffic service is irrelevant, what exactly are you wanting? Sorry highwide this is a pointless comment.

Piltdown Man 1st Nov 2016 09:02


There is a nice Emb tow bar in a box, so that's a start.
Not really a surprise as KLM will saying goodbye to the last of their Fokkers in the back end of 2017. The transition to Embraers is already underway and one of the required peices of support equipment is a towbar (and shear pins). Another is a low-ish (but adjustable) set of steps as these aircraft will not have integral airstairs. Everything else is very standard. So the big question is when? Not a clue I'm afraid.

PM

highwideandugly 1st Nov 2016 13:37

Notams
 
Excuse me James,just thought as a budding PPL/CPL you would be checking notams before you flew!

Robert-Ryan 1st Nov 2016 13:56

I always thought closures were few and far between and happen at most airports of this size? Could be wrong.

jamesgrainge 1st Nov 2016 15:31


Originally Posted by highwideandugly (Post 9563470)
Excuse me James,just thought as a budding PPL/CPL you would be checking notams before you flew!

Having read the NOTAM it is a complete non event that. Already basic service between CTR, radar is out of service. Inbound aircraft to follow standard arrival routes presumably as usual in event of radar service being unavailable. Not a big deal.

highwideandugly 1st Nov 2016 16:19

Thanks James,that explains everything,crystal clear now !!!!!

jamesgrainge 1st Nov 2016 16:29


Originally Posted by highwideandugly (Post 9563714)
Thanks James,that explains everything,crystal clear now !!!!!

Can't tell if this is sarcastic or not haha?

highwideandugly 2nd Nov 2016 16:08

Happy birthday DTV airport..50 years ago today it opened as a civil airport!!

Robert-Ryan 3rd Nov 2016 21:44

A good article in the Echo today:

Durham Tees Valley boss says airport remains at the heart of the region's ambitions as it celebrates 50th anniversary (From The Northern Echo)

Though the 50th anniversary was actually two years ago, only the new terminal building was completed and opened in 1966

aceofthebase 4th Nov 2016 00:18

LON- MME
 
Rumours abounding down here in sunny London say that Flybe will be looking at starting routes from Northolt (5 miles north of LHR) to Humberside, Liverpool, Dundee, Newquay and last but not least Teesside.

jamesgrainge 4th Nov 2016 19:32


Originally Posted by aceofthebase (Post 9566615)
Rumours abounding down here in sunny London say that Flybe will be looking at starting routes from Northolt (5 miles north of LHR) to Humberside, Liverpool, Dundee, Newquay and last but not least Teesside.

Where is this Teesside you speak of 🤔

highwideandugly 5th Nov 2016 14:09

Just noticed the Sunday morning departure to Amsterdam not on the boa de..is this a one off or a reduction for the winter?

Robert-Ryan 5th Nov 2016 14:25

I think it's a '2 off', according to DTVMovements, the KLM timetable is very inconsistent throughout the winter schedule.

Reading some of the objections to the housing recently, it was enough to convince me they will be rejected, in which case I will be very very worried about the future of the airport.

highwideandugly 5th Nov 2016 16:26

Cause for concern...Eastern schedules erratic,,Now. KLM maybe,possibly,housing...seems to me like not a lot of positive,positives?
It's going to be a hard winter??

N707ZS 5th Nov 2016 18:53

Bit of a downer from you Robert.
Will be interesting to see what the housing opponents have to say if they do cause damage to what is left of the airport.

On the up side hangar 1 is starting to look good with the door overhaul nearly complete.

SWBKCB 5th Nov 2016 19:16

So it will all be the opponents of housing fault?

You do have to wonder about Peels approach - a couple of points:

1. the recent comments about LHR just seem to have reflected a general attitude of "we are happy to talk if we're approached" rather than giving the impression of chasing new business; and

2. despite all of Beefer's bluster, he does make the point that Peel aren't short of a few quid and aren't afraid of making bold decisions/investments. But not at DTVA - any investment seems to need to be able to attract outside funding as well, or the selling off assets.

highwideandugly 5th Nov 2016 19:41

Just another point..it's all positive from Heathrow re expansion etc. We all know it's going to be a long hard road(runway) before tarmac is laid?

So, It's not Heathrow who dictates/organanises flights into their airport.Its down to the airlines..what incentives will PEEL offer these airlines to introduce flights? Time will tell no doubt?

Robert-Ryan 6th Nov 2016 23:13

Regarding SWBKCBs point #2, I get the impression the conversation between Peel Airports and Peel Holdings went something along the lines of:

PA: "Can we have x millions to build hangars, business parks and industrial units"
PH: "How much return are we going to get from this little venture?"
PA: "Well, we're not exactly sure but we are confident we can deliver x amount of profit"
PH: "You'll have to do better than confident, we need guarantees if you want our money...otherwise raise your own"
PA: "Ok that's what we'll have to do then, plan A will be the Regional Growth Fund, and if that fails then Plan B will be housing"

Beafer 8th Nov 2016 00:18

Rumours in the village is the housing will be knocked back with the legal objections.
What happens to the master plan if that happens? will the empire come up with a new plan involving wind turbines which has been mooted in the past?
Something is going on at DTV with terminations of councillors on the board. One of whom only joined the board in June, David Walsh.
https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/c...filing-history
Jumping ship or asking too many questions which Peel don't want to answer? 4 months must be the shortest time there.
The new accounts are due next month which should be revealing to see how the airport finances are progressing?
https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/c...filing-history
There are a couple of Charges outstanding on the company filed accounts.
Can anybody explain what they mean?
https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/c...020423/charges
One appears to be free hold land k/a St.George Hotel owned by Middlesbrough Council, and the other is to do with all property known as Oak Tree Farm.
Isn't this where the houses are planned for? Does this mean this property is actually owned by that council and the couple mentioned?


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