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Beafer 23rd Oct 2014 19:12

Minister demands answers.
 
£10,000 and look what happens! Minister demands answers :eek:

Speaks volumes about Peel previous announcements at DTV.

Minister demands answers after airport drops safety-related objections to wind turbines after striking £10,000 deal with developer (From The Northern Echo)

N707ZS 23rd Oct 2014 19:54

I see you didn't put the good bit out of the Echo.

Fabrication firm's helideck work (From The Northern Echo)

Some of us had a secret bet to guess how quick you would of dished the dirt!

N707ZS 23rd Oct 2014 21:21

TESCO jet has gone.

paully 24th Oct 2014 09:40

I wonder how many clubcard points the buyer got with that then? ;)

NorthSouth 24th Oct 2014 20:31


Minister demands answers after airport drops safety-related objections to wind turbines after striking £10,000 deal with developer (From The Northern Echo)
Oh, so they're back to the strategy they first used 10+ years ago - charge the money then use it to pay salaries and don't bother applying any mitigation because ATC don't give a stuff anyway. But I thought the CAA had stopped them doing that because they argued that it amounted to "charging for airspace" which is illegal.

Meanwhile DTVA ATC continues to vector its traffic over unmitigated wind turbines every day of the week without any incident or concern. If you had to avoid all wind turbines showing up on radar, KLM and EZE would have left years ago.

NS

N707ZS 25th Oct 2014 14:39

That's poor Beafer thought it was something new and interesting. Even dated 3rd October.

skyman771 25th Oct 2014 16:16


If Britain needed so many airports, they’d be much better used than they are. Many would never have been built in the first place had the military not bequeathed the basic facilities after the war.
This quote in same article in the Independent sets it out rather succinctly, & although not applied directly at DTV may as well have been.........

highwideandugly 27th Oct 2014 01:02

KLM figures September
 
See the downward trend of DTVs. Premier carrier continues on the downward slope....oh well let's hope they have deep pockets or we are in the S......,,"!! te

Mike Tee 27th Oct 2014 07:04

Sky News reporting this morning that the Tesco fleet is up for sale and the new CEO is taking the train to work (or was it his bicycle !!).

mcginty1 27th Oct 2014 21:05

Are the people on this thread the only ones fighting our corner?
 
I have been reading threads 5 and 6 for a number of years ,and as much as I support those supporting our airport, I feel that the death grip Peel now have, is ultimately sucking the remaining life out of our airport. KLM will not continue to operate if they are making a loss. It is only a matter of time before the downward figures go through the threshold of cost effectiveness. They will pull out , and then we will get a few weeks of ranting and raving in the local press and that will be that. We told you , Use it or lose it!!
I hope that Hugh Lang and the councillors instrumental in the sale of our airport are brought to justice; but that will never happen.....

mcginty1 27th Oct 2014 21:08

Maybe this is the catalyst Peel are looking for
 
Air France KLM group in trouble?
Head line in Dutch papers today saying unions fear thousands of jobs may go, as the group is hanging by a 'silk thread'. Costs need to be reduced by 20%. Management in talks tomorrow to discuss drastic measures to save the group from collapse.

litefoot1 28th Oct 2014 12:21

If KLM cease flying from Durham (worst case scenario), what will that mean for the airport? Just curious as to how important KLM's operation is to DTV.

davidjohnson6 28th Oct 2014 12:41

DTV airport will likely have about 140,000 passengers for the duration of 2014. Approximately 100,000 of those passengers fly with KLM to/from Amsterdam

In the 12 months ending 30 September (ie before closure) Blackpool airport saw 265,000 passengers.

SWBKCB 28th Oct 2014 16:37


In the 12 months ending 30 September (ie before closure) Blackpool airport saw 265,000 passengers.
And an apple tastes nothing like an orange.

N707ZS 28th Oct 2014 16:51

Great answer SWBKCB I thought David would of known better than to spout Beafer style manure.

davidjohnson6 28th Oct 2014 17:32

N707ZS - would you be kind enough to explain why my post is manure ?

I accept that in the real world, airports are never identical to another, but I struggle to find other airports with a similiar profile and level of passengers in the UK.

N707ZS 28th Oct 2014 18:27

I was being pleasant by describing your post as manure you usually have a better argument than just a straight passenger comparison. Even the passenger types are different between the two airports.

SWBKCB 28th Oct 2014 20:22

Beefer - the reason the airport was sold and the price has been explained when you've asked this question previously (most recently three weeks ago...), but you continue to ask?

SWBKCB 28th Oct 2014 20:45

Beefer - more stirring, getting a bit tedious.

The 500k is a figure that has been put forward as being the number of passengers you need to sustain an airport on pax revenue.

This actually supports Peel's view in the Masterplan - that pax numbers will not sustain DTVA and that it needs to diversify into other aviation related streams of revenue to prosper.

What Peel are trying to do at DTVA is the right thing - if they're going about it the right way is a completely different matter.

DTVAirport 28th Oct 2014 21:01

Beafer, do you have the memory of a Goldfish is that why you repeat the same questions over and over despite more than satisfactory answers being given?? Airports go for £1 these days, so taking that into consideration I'd say Peel paid a fortune!

At the end of the day, if Peel closed the airport next year, then they would have kept the airport open for 12 years longer than what the councils would have if they hadn't sold!!

I'm wasting my breath of course because the Peel-bashers and conspiracy theorists will always find a response even where there isn't one...


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